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CNN RELIABLE SOURCES

Conway on White Abode Believability Crisis; Poll: Best Americans Don't Assurance Admiral Trump; Murdoch's Media Outlets Demography Aim at Mueller; "The Weinstein Effect" on Animal Aggravation Coverage. Aired 11a-12p ET

Aired November 5, 2017 - 11:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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[11:00:47] FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN HOST, "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS": This is Fareed Zakaria aback actuality on "GPS." Acknowledgment to all the guests who abutting me on the appearance today, and acknowledge you for actuality allotment of my affairs this week. I'll see you abutting week.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN HOST: Hey, acceptable morning. I'm Brian Stelter and this is RELIABLE SOURCES, our annual attending at the adventure abaft the story, of how the media absolutely works and how the annual gets made.

This hour, Ronan Farrow will accompany me animate talking about the Weinstein aftereffect beating throughout the industry. This week, NPR's arch of annual was affected out and Kevin Spacey was abeyant from "House of Cards." Who's next?

Plus, an all brilliant console actuality to acknowledge to this week's annual in Robert Mueller's Russia investigations. Why is Rupert Murdoch aggravating to use his media ascendancy to discredit Mueller?

But, first, new poll numbers. This is what a White Abode creditability crises looks like. A new "Washington Post"/ABC poll appear aloof a few hours ago asked, do you anticipate Admiral Trump is honest and accurate or not? Abandoned 33 percent said yes, he's honest, 65 percent said they do not accept he's trustworthy.

This would be adverse for any White House, decidedly for an administering that has abandoned been on the job for nine months.

Let's allocution through this and all the day's annual with Kellyanne Conway, advisor to Admiral Trump. She joins me now from the White House.

Kellyanne, acknowledgment for accordant to be here.

KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Hi, Brian. My pleasure.

STELTER: Accustomed Admiral Trump's historically low approval ratings, what specific accomplish are you and your colleagues demography to try to adjustment Trump's credibility?

CONWAY: So, Brian, I anticipate that's a accepted abstract aperture to one of CNN's segments. But let me acquaint you about the numbers that amount to America is the 1.5 actor jobs created on his watch, the 54 almanac highs in the banal bazaar closes, the customer aplomb akin at a 17-year higher, which agency college than both Admiral George W. Bush and Admiral Obama, 17-year --

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STELTER: But what are you accomplishing about credibility?

CONWAY: Alibi me -- that is credibility.

STELTER: It's not.

CONWAY: For the bodies who are advantageous absorption -- oh, it is. It is. Maybe not to CNN.

STELTER: The American bodies are not giving him credit, according to the polls.

CONWAY: Yes, they are. It depends how you ask the question. You accept the articulation activity through all of your promos adage CNN, the best trusted name in news, what affirmation do you accept of that? I've apparent polling numbers to the contrary.

STELTER: You're talking about CNN instead of admiral Trump?

CONWAY: No, no, I'm blessed to allocution about Admiral Trump. You disconnected me because I was activity through what CNN refuses to awning about Admiral Trump which is the bread-and-butter benefaction on his watch as president. The actuality is --

STELTER: The abridgement is covered every day, Kellyanne. Kellyanne, that's like adage --

CONWAY: That's not true. You aloof appetite to altercate because you say facts first, so I'm giving you the facts about the banal market, the 1.5 actor jobs created.

STELTER: I acknowledge that, but I asked is about Admiral Trump's believability --

CONWAY: Well, you apperceive who you absolutely acknowledge it?

STELTER: -- and how the White Abode is acclimation these believability crises. Do you accept an acknowledgment to that question?

CONWAY: That's what you alarm it.

Yes, here's the deal. The believability crises abide in the added affair now. I aloof cannot accept the affliction that Donna Brazile has launched area she says she was ambidextrous with three, quote, titanic egos, Admiral Obama, Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

STELTER: You know, I chock-full demography Donna Brazile actively aback she aria --

CONWAY: Why? STELTER: -- and aback it was appear that CNN accursed her for giving agitation questions to Hillary Clinton.

CONWAY: Wow. That's --

STELTER: I'm not actuality to ask you about Donna Brazile.

CONWAY: Alibi me, that's actual barbarous to Donna Brazile. She saw what we saw out there, which is a abridgement of activity for Hillary Clinton. She was worried, appropriately so, that the acclamation were wrong, including CNN's polling. I apperceive you accursed your pollster since.

STELTER: I'm here, with all due respect, Kellyanne, to ask about Admiral Trump, not Hillary Clinton.

CONWAY: If you appetite to allocution about credibility, let's allocution about it.

STELTER: Do your centralized acclamation accord with historically low approval ratings?

CONWAY: So, you appetite to allocution about approval ratings, and I'm cogent you about the numbers that amount to Americans.

STELTER: Because his approval ratings are shockingly low. It's a botheration not aloof for you and for me but for the nation that this admiral is not trusted by the American people.

CONWAY: That's wrong. You apperceive what's a botheration for this nation, that you debris -- CNN acclimated to be a abode area bodies can tune in and get the annual all day long. Now they get circuit and people's opinions.

And I anticipate CNN should own it. Brian, why not say, look, it's in our bartering absorption at CNN to be anti-Trump. We're assisting if we're adjoin the president, best of our admirers are adjoin the president.

[11:05:02] Aloof own it. Don't you anticipate that would be added aboveboard for CNN than assuming that you're beeline bottomward the middle?

STELTER: I accept that you don't appetite an adversarial media. You all --

CONWAY: No.

STELTER: -- I assumption you appetite aloof everybody to be like FOX News.

CONWAY: I appetite an honest media. No, that's not true.

STELTER: State-run media?

CONWAY: Stop actuality anxious of FOX News, Brian, and their ratings. I anticipate that would admonition if you bead the annoyance a little bit about FOX News.

STELTER: Let's on the awning -- CONWAY: The actuality is that we charge a media -- we charge a media that

covers the facts. If customer aplomb is at a 17-year high, that's accordant to the abandoned man or woman that Donna Brazile admits was actuality ignored.

STELTER: It's like a doctor walking in and adage -- it's like a doctor walks in and says you accept blight and it's overextension throughout your body, but the acceptable annual is your legs still assignment and your anxiety still work. It's abundant that I can airing but I appetite to amusement the cancer, Kellyanne, and that's why I'm allurement about his historically low approval ratings.

CONWAY: Well, I'm not activity to buy into that abominable affinity because I apperceive abounding bodies are adversity with -- terminal blight appropriate now. So, I aloof anticipate it's a abhorrent affinity you aloof offered to the viewers.

I appetite to acquaint you article about the president. He's on an celebrated cruise to Asia, the country is watching that. They're alert to him anon and they get the annual anon from him. I apperceive there's a lot of arm -- there's a lot of hand-wringing in the boilerplate media that the country doesn't charge you anymore to circuit and clarify what the admiral aloof said. They apprehend his cheep aback you apprehend his tweet. It's a democratization of information.

STELTER: Sure.

CONWAY: They don't charge you to acquaint -- they don't charge you to acquaint them what the admiral aloof says. He's accustomed a lot of columnist availability. Every time he's demography off from the South Lawn now about he's talking to the press. I've been in the allowance several times aftermost ceremony aback the admiral is answering questions to a animate poll aerosol that accept annihilation to do with why they were there like the chiffonier meetings, agency and agency affair the added day.

There are abounding altered accomplishments by this admiral area he is actual abounding and accessible and answering these questions. I don't anticipate you can acquisition a added transparent, added accessible admiral in contempo times that is agreeable with the media and usually spontaneously. Isn't that refreshing?

STELTER: I anticipate it's commendable that he's been demography questions from the press. But I did anticipate it was adverse aback he said on Friday to the columnist band that he's aghast in the Justice Department. You're reasonable. You apperceive it's advancing to accept a admiral aggravating to meddle in the Administering of Justice. Accept you counseled him to stop accomplishing that?

CONWAY: So, Brian, go aback and attending at the president's abounding quote. He said, I appetite the Justice Administering to run itself. He said, I like you to run itself. He said. That agency he's not interfering and meddling.

He has behest alarm and the casual annoyance about for a actual continued time, about the actuality that the Administering of Justice and the FBI don't assume absorbed in both abandon of the declared bunco coin. And alike CNN -- STELTER: Is he activity to alter Jeff Sessions?

CONWAY: No. That's not what he's adage at all.

STELTER: He's disappointed. He wants them to do it differently.

CONWAY: Well, aboriginal of all, you appetite me to go on band adage he will never alter X or so and so will be actuality all eight years. I'm not activity to do that because it's silly. You guys consistently appetite to apperceive who's up and who's down, and the American bodies affliction that the banal bazaar is up and unemployment is down.

But to this point, we've got assorted investigations through Mr. Mueller, through aldermanic and Senate committees and CNN itself has been so hot on Russia, Russia, Russia, on the dossier. CNN's been bedeviled with this abstracts for over a year now and now that we apperceive the DNC and Clinton advance paid the aforementioned abutting for said abstracts which is absolutely unverified, we can't get you excited. If you attending aback at your able year --

STELTER: Parts of it accept been verified. That is misinformation that you're overextension on my program, Kellyanne, and I don't acknowledge it. Abundant of the abstracts --

CONWAY: Ascendancy on.

STELTER: -- you said the absolute abstracts is unverified. That is inaccurate.

CONWAY: No, I said it has not been verified. But the important --

STELTER: Pieces of the abstracts accept been absolute and aback you say it's unverified, you absolutely mislead the American people.

CONWAY: No, no, don't alpha with that.

STELTER: Carter Page absolutely accepted addition allotment of the abstracts on Friday.

CONWAY: Don't alpha with that. You apperceive that absolute abstracts has not been absolute and yet the absorption in accoutrement --

STELTER: Parts of it accept not been verified. Parts accept been verified.

CONWAY: Are you adequate with that? Are you adequate with that?

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: By the way, we don't affliction about the abstracts because let me acquaint you something. Great. Then, let's attending at all abandon of the coin.

Tell me this, why, if Admiral Obama and allegedly according to Donna Brazile now Attorney General Holder, civic aegis adviser Susan Rice, they all knew about -- they were all told about accessible Russian meddling. Why didn't they acquaint us at the campaign? They knew aftermost summer. We weren't told because --

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STELTER: I agree, there should accept been more. You're appropriate about that. There should accept been bigger stronger warnings.

CONWAY: Absolutely. OK, should that be allotment of the investigation?

So, if we're activity to attending advanced in our democracy, our unimpeded, interfered democracy, Brian, which I apperceive you and I both accede with, and why wouldn't we attending at that? Why weren't we --

STELTER: I don't apperceive what Mueller is looking. Thankfully he hasn't been aperture --

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CONWAY: Is it because everybody anticipation Hillary Clinton is activity to win and it wouldn't matter?

But I appetite to say article else. As the advance administrator for the acceptable allotment of the advance --

STELTER: Yes.

CONWAY: -- I never a distinct time alike anticipation about what to do -- how to accord with Russians to win. Hillary Clinton, as Donna Brazile aloof acicular out, I accede with her completely, she was a walking, talking abundance accession of how to exhausted Hillary Clinton. We never bare to attending added than her.

[11:10:01] And as Donna believability out, there was a activity of authoritativeness and airs over in Brooklyn that they didn't accept to advance on the issues, they didn't accept to advance hard. She didn't see the activity for Hillary Clinton.

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STELTER: I anticipate admirers see what you're doing, pivoting. Aback I say Russia, you say Clinton. It's allotment of the strategy. Would you agree?

CONWAY: No, no, sorry. If you appetite to allocution about -- listen, I'd be blessed to never allocution about the 2016 acclamation again. You apperceive why? We won it --

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: Well, let's accede not to allocution about it during this interview.

CONWAY: Ascendancy on. The acumen that we're still talking about it is because of the DNC, because Hillary Clinton has done a book bout that you're because nonfiction, not fiction. They're still talking about the 2016 campaign. It turns out -- STELTER: You adulation to jab, jab, exhausted on Hillary Clinton. It's boring.

CONWAY: No!

STELTER: It's outdated. It's history.

CONWAY: She is abundantly boring.

STELTER: Let's allocution about what's draft in the architecture abaft you. I charge to ask you about the Justice Department.

CONWAY: Let's do that, let's do that, tax cut --

STELTER: Because you're adage that the admiral is not interfering with the Justice Department. There's austere apropos that he is. For example, you apperceive the bigger --

CONWAY: At CNN.

STELTER: -- trending media accord is the AT&T Time Warner deal. Time Warner owns CNN.

This week, there was a faculty the accord was about to be accustomed until this banderole came out in the "Wall Street Journal." It says the Administering of Justice is belief a accusation to block the AT&T deal. Has Admiral Trump had any captivation in the analysis of this deal, Kellyanne?

CONWAY: Brian, you apperceive bigger than to go advanced and bandy that adulteration out to your admirers which you apperceive are heavily Democratic --

STELTER: That's not poison.

CONWAY: -- and anti-Trump because it's a business archetypal you should own. But at the aforementioned time, the Administering of Justice and the altered departments, aural the Administering of Justice who attending at accord deals will do their work. We're not activity to baffle with that here.

STELTER: So, Admiral Trump has not had any conversations about the deal?

CONWAY: I can accept why some of your colleagues are afraid about addition merger, I get that. But I'm not -- I absolutely don't appetite to absorb the White House's time and our belvedere today on CNN with you Brian talking about article that affects you and your employees.

The Administering of Justice is a actual ample place. Let them do their job here. Let Mr. Mueller do --

STELTER: Independently, I agree. They should be independent.

CONWAY: Well, of course, the Administering of Justice is department.

STELTER: But aback the president's accusatory every day about the Justice Department, bodies cannot assurance that he's abrogation the administering alone. You see what I mean?

CONWAY: That's not true. No, no, no.

STELTER: He's accusatory several canicule in a row. It was --

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: Yes, but he additionally said -- comedy the abounding draft if you appetite to be honest and absolutely aboveboard about it. Facts first, Brian. Appearance the able draft of the admiral saying, I appetite the Administering of Justice to run itself. That's noninterference, OK? And I aloof appetite to accomplish bright --

STELTER: Admiral Trump said afore Acclamation Day that he vowed to block the AT&T deal. That's why this is significant. Does he still argue the AT&T deal?

CONWAY: I haven't discussed that with him afresh because it's not important to what we're accomplishing here, which is he aloof went a celebrated Asia -- he's in the average -- he's at the alpha of an celebrated Asia trip. We're acid taxes.

STELTER: Sure. Sure. But these deals are important.

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: He's been bashing the Justice Department. What about the Sinclair Tribune deal? They accept a bourgeois bent. Does he argue that deal?

CONWAY: Haven't discussed that with him recently. We don't altercate that here. Those are deals in the clandestine area that the Administering of Justice will or will not attending at. That's up to them. There are abounding things

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: But it's so opaque. That's issue, Kellyanne, is I'm attractive for added transparency. I'm attractive for added accuracy on a array of topics.

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: No, you're attractive for conversations that don't booty place.

STELTER: I anticipate that's how the admiral could achieve his credibility.

CONWAY: No, that's not true.

STELTER: I anticipate the admiral can achieve his creditability by actuality added transparent. On his tax returns, for example, the borderline for him to book his federal tax acknowledgment was October 18th. Do you apperceive if he has filed his tax returns?

CONWAY: Do you apperceive what it ability attending like in the future? A postcard or a --

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: That's a abundant axis and I annual the pivot, but why will he not absolution this year's tax return?

CONWAY: I anticipate Americans appetite to apperceive about the tax -- I anticipate Americans appetite to apperceive about the tax cuts. You apperceive they appetite to apperceive about the tax cuts. You apperceive that that affects them. They're cat-and-mouse to get average chic tax and cat-and-mouse for trillions of dollars that are anchored beyond accurately to appear back. They appetite those jobs aback here. It's how he won and he's authoritative acceptable on it.

You don't appetite to awning that. You appetite this able year to basically be -- I mean, if CNN looked aback at this year you should be auctioning from the Kremlin, not Capitol Hill. You've been bedeviled with one above issue. Fifty-four banal bazaar highs and in all 54 days, you've covered Russia. I mean, is that responsible?

STELTER: Kellyanne, if you would like to accompany CNN as a producer, I'm abiding we can acquisition an opening, if you would like to be complex in beat decisions.

CONWAY: I had a nice action from CNN but I came central instead. And I annual CNN. Look, CNN, plucked me out of the wilderness 20 years ago aback I knew annihilation about activity on TV. I'll consistently be beholden for that, but I don't accept why --

STELTER: But I asked about tax acknowledgment -- I asked why the admiral won't absolution his tax acknowledgment and you're talking about CNN.

CONWAY: He's answered that abounding times. You're still talking about the 2016 election. You complete like Hillary Clinton --

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: I'm allurement about two weeks ago was the borderline for him to acknowledgment his federal tax return. I anticipate it's affectionate of awkward the columnist didn't ask added about this aftermost month. The borderline was October 18th and we haven't apparent a tax acknowledgment yet.

CONWAY: CNN is in the advanced row of the columnist briefings every day. They accept what to ask. They've been out there on the South Lawn every distinct time.

STELTER: Sure, I'm animated that dozens of reporters are there.

CONWAY: And your colleagues are shouting questions during columnist pools. I'm appropriate there.

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: Right. Well, I'm allurement you instead. That's amount of it.

Let me ask you one added about transparency. Admiral Obama underwent physicals in 2010, 2011, 2014, 2016. [11:15:06] Will Admiral Trump see the White Abode doctor and will he

release the after-effects of his physicals?

CONWAY: I don't ask the admiral about clandestine affairs about his bloom or --

STELTER: It's not a clandestine matter. All presidents acknowledge their medical annal and they acknowledge their physicals aback they're in the White House. It's not a clandestine matter.

CONWAY: I'm not activity to animadversion on that today. I will aloof say that as Admiral Obama was accomplishing that, he was lying to the American bodies about befitting their doctor and their plan. Again, that's what animates Americans, that 28 actor Americans that still don't accept bloom care.

STELTER: I'm adjoin liars. Obviously, I'm adjoin liars. But admiral Trump has a clue almanac of misinformation.

CONWAY: Don't alarm him a liar. Don't alarm him a liar, Brian.

STELTER: I didn't alarm him a liar. I said I'm adjoin liars. I'm adjoin liars.

But Admiral Trump has a clue almanac of misinforming the public. Do you admonish him as advisor to the admiral not to advance misinformation?

CONWAY: The admiral communicates anon through the bodies all day continued through his Twitter feed, through his availability to the press.

STELTER: Inaccurately.

CONWAY: Ascendancy on. That is not true, Brian. Ascendancy on.

And that you can blooming --

STELTER: He said Broadcom was a Approaching 100 aggregation this week. It's not alike Fortune 500 company.

CONWAY: You aces and choose. You blooming pick. You apperceive what bodies will be happy? They'll be blessed that Broadcom came to the White Abode and appear that it will be creating jobs in this country.

STELTER: That's true.

CONWAY: You ask the people, you don't get out there and allocution to the bodies like we do, respectfully. Hillary Clinton didn't respectfully. I didn't see you or her in Wisconsin, but the actuality is this --

STELTER: Kellyanne, my ancestors is from Wisconsin, I adulation Wisconsin. I'd adulation to go with you to Wisconsin.

CONWAY: Let's do it.

STELTER: But you can't sit actuality and say, Brian, you don't go and allocution to the people. That's aloof insulting.

CONWAY: No, no, no, you didn't aftermost year. You didn't aftermost year. You guys were accomplishing civic polls. You absent the able zeitgeist. My point to you is, go and allocution to whoever gets the jobs from Foxconn in Wisconsin or from Broadcom elsewhere.

STELTER: Yes.

CONWAY: And ask them what they affliction about, ask them what their tax allotment are activity to attending like, ask them if they affliction -- if Broadcom is a Fortune this or a Fortune that. They're activity to be blessed to accept a job and you're not abutting that.

STELTER: Sure, I accede with you on that.

CONWAY: I anticipate a abridgement of accuracy is additionally not cogent the American bodies all the acceptable that's draft for them. If bodies aloof appetite to apprehend the negative, negative, negative, they'll abide to tune in. But not everybody's affability in, Brian. You know, your ratings are not as aerial as added networks, cable stations, because bodies --

STELTER: Afresh why are you here, Kellyanne? If you're activity to booty a attempt at me, why are you here?

CONWAY: Alibi me, (INAUDIBLE) booty shots at my boss.

STELTER: Clearly, you appetite the access --

CONWAY: No, I'm added than blessed -- listen, I'm consistently blessed and you've got bodies apparently on Twitter now, you'll apprehend it, I'll go home and watch the Philadelphia Eagles win and booty my kids to article fun today. But you'll go on Twitter the draft of the day as you're captivation your adored babyish babe and you will see what bodies said and you will apprehend how anti-Trump the CNN admirers are now. So, go advanced and accord them article altered to attending at.

STELTER: What they're activity to say is, Brian, you shouldn't accept that woman on CNN. You shouldn't accept that woman because she spins. I anticipate they're wrong.

CONWAY: They say it all the time. They don't apprehend how generally we're arrive to be on CNN. That's right. Acknowledge you.

STELTER: That's right. I ask for you every week.

CONWAY: They accept no abstraction how generally we're invited.

STELTER: I try to book you every ceremony and I'm beholden that you're here.

CONWAY: I didn't apperceive that, I didn't apperceive that, but I'm blessed to appear on added frequently. I'll acquaint you that appropriate actuality and appropriate now.

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But, look, let's -- can't we aloof accomplish a accord of some array that we can absolutely get added -- if you appetite facts first, there are facts out there that you're not cogent the American people. I aloof anticipate blooming acrimonious --

STELTER: That's aloof not true.

CONWAY: Look, you're a 24/7 cable, you're 24/7 annual outlet. You accept a lot of bodies in your agenda platform. You accept all-embracing audiences.

Don't you appetite them to apprehend that the banal bazaar is at an best high? Don't you appetite them to apprehend --

STELTER: They did on Friday. They did on Friday.

CONWAY: But aloof in passing. It's never absolutely -- look, Sarah's briefings, best of what everybody covers is the Q&A. The affluent allotment of those briefings is at the alpha aback she is analogue the facts of what aloof happened that day.

STELTER: She apprehend a bourgeois alternation e-mail from the podium. It was embarrassing.

CONWAY: The civic aegis -- I don't apperceive what you're talking about there but I'm adage --

STELTER: She apprehend a alternation e-mail about tax allotment the added day, bethink on Monday?

CONWAY: She is advertisement out -- and I do acquisition it analytical and I anticipate bodies should booty agenda of what you're not allurement me today. You're not allurement me a affair about, as the acceptable advance administrator you're not allurement me a affair about Russia, about what we were doing.

You apperceive the day -- you appetite to allocution about CNN polling. The day that I got there as advance manager, we were bottomward bifold digits according to CNN polling. And alike if you're polling was off a few points, we apperceive we were losing. And the actuality is I never already considered, never already considered, never already advised not attractive at Michigan and attractive at Moscow instead.

I don't apperceive what added bodies were accomplishing beforehand in the campaign, but I can acquaint you aloof as the indictments aftermost week, these indictments aftermost ceremony had annihilation to do with the campaign, annihilation to do with Russia collusion.

STELTER: You've brought us aback to the acclamation again. You're at the White House. Hillary Clinton is not.

CONWAY: No, no, because that's what CNN is covering. I didn't acknowledgment her name. I would be blessed to --

STELTER: You're talking about the campaign.

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: No, no, you're talking about Russia bunco which has to do with the campaign. You're not talking about it as we're governing, right? That all has to do with the campaign. STELTER: The way Russia attacked us aftermost year is the bigger adventure I can anticipate of.

CONWAY: Now, you're talking about the campaign. OK, ascendancy on --

STELTER: Russia continues to advance us today. They're activity to advance us in the mid-terms, and I don't see your bang-up accomplishing abundant to assure us.

CONWAY: Wait, alibi me, we accept a lot activity on with annual to cyber aegis in this administration.

[11:20:03] Every distinct day article is actuality done in that space.

But ascendancy on.

STELTER: OK.

CONWAY: You can't accept it both ways, Brian. You can't on your arrangement consistently allocution about Russia, Russia, Russia, which has aggregate to do with the 2016 advance and afresh the minute I draft the bendable abject of this nonsense, you allege me of absent to allocution about the campaign.

I assignment here, Hillary Clinton doesn't. And this man is governing. He's accomplishing things for the American people. He's aggravating to get those 28 actor Americans who were larboard in the algid afterwards bloom affliction reform. He's aggravating to get a average chic tax cut. He wants to abate the accumulated tax rate.

STELTER: But he hasn't yet, that's why his approval ratings are ashore in the mud. What are you activity to do with the approval rating?

CONWAY: Listen, his approval ratings don't amount as abundant as all the numbers. And I say this aback they're up and I say this aback they're done. I've been about a actual continued time. I'm an old woman, Brian.

I allocution about approval ratings on this arrangement and others for decades and they're not as important as what affairs -- if consumers feel assured and they're out there spending their money, if job creators feel like they can allure and absorb the American workforce, accompany that abundance and those jobs home, if accumulated American -- I've never apparent Washington so organized --

STELTER: I accede with you. The abandoned affair we disagree on is the columnist doesn't awning it. I'm sitting by the CNN Money newsroom. Dozens of reporters awning the abridgement every day. But I apprehend what you're saying.

CONWAY: That's great. We adulation to see them added on your show. But I apperceive you apprehend what I'm adage and it's the chyrons. But, you know, I'm aloof cogent you, aloof own it. Aloof own it at CNN.

You're a actual arresting actuality there. Aloof say, you know, we're accomplishing bigger in the ratings, we're accepting bigger ad revenues because we're one of the added anti-Trump than bottomward the band outlets. Aloof own it. I anticipate it's OK to do that. STELTER: We're not anti-Trump, Kellyanne.

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: We're pro-truth. We're pro-honesty. We're pro-decency, and this is a boxy moment in American history for bodies that abutment facts and decency.

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: Alibi me. We've had abounding boxy times in American history.

STELTER: Sure.

CONWAY: But you know, Benghazi didn't appear because of a tape. You all covered that.

STELTER: I'm not activity to --

CONWAY: Bodies couldn't their doctor and couldn't accumulate their plan. Right, you don't like --

(CROSSTALK)

STELTER: I apprehend Benghazi, I apprehend Clinton, let's allocution abutting time.

CONWAY: Well, you're hearing. You appetite to allocution about facts. But the actuality is, Brian, I acknowledge actuality on. We acknowledge the platform.

STELTER: Acknowledge you.

CONWAY: And I'm consistently accommodating to do that aback I'm available. Acknowledge you.

STELTER: Hey, we're both acclaim for the Eagles today at least. That's what we accept in common.

CONWAY: All right, 8-1 advancing up.

STELTER: All right. See you soon. Acknowledge you for actuality here.

CONWAY: Booty care.

STELTER: Aback we appear back, a absolute console to anatomize all of this and the latest on the Robert Mueller Russia investigation. We'll be appropriate back.

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[11:26:22] STELTER: Hey. Acceptable aback to RELIABLE SOURCES. I'm Brian Stelter.

We were talking afore the breach with advisor to the president, Kellyanne Conway. I was allurement her about the approval ratings for the admiral on the one-year mark aback Acclamation Day. We should put on awning the newest abstracts we have. This is from ABC out overnight, this ABC/"Washington Post" poll assuming Trump at a 37 percent approval rating.

The number, we've heard it for months now, 35, 37, 38 percent. We aloof can't accentuate abundant how historically low this is.

So, let's allocution about that and the draft of the week's annual with Eliana Johnson. She's a civic political anchorman at "Politico". And Errol Louis, a political ballast for Spectrum Annual actuality in New York and a CNN political commentator.

Errol, you were authoritative the point to me during the bartering breach that Kellyanne Conway is an able pollster.

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes.

STELTER: She's acquainted of how awfully low these numbers are for her boss. I annual that she doesn't necessarily appetite to altercate that but I anticipate to myself, the bigger adventure involving the Trump admiral appropriate now is his disapproval from the American public.

LOUIS: Absolutely --

STELTER: We accept to accumulate advancing aback to it alike if it feels repetitive.

LOUIS: There are important political implications to that. That's not to abatement what she was aggravating to say about the abridgement accomplishing able-bodied and that's activity to calculation in the president's favor. OK, fine, alike with that abundant bread-and-butter achievement in contempo weeks, he's assuming so abominably that she has a pollster knows actual able-bodied that it's the affectionate of affair that turns donors off, it's the affectionate of affair that invites challengers. It emboldens accessible challengers to the president, not aloof on Capitol Hill with legislation and accomplishing the White House's behest but alike a claiming for the admiral in re- acclamation is not out of the catechism aback the numbers are aloof that bad.

So, you know, afresh you've got the all-encompassing poll that puts a all-encompassing -- for the aftereffect in Congress abutting year, puts the Democrats ten believability over the Republicans. She knows that that is trouble. She knows that that's got to get angry around. It is actual aerial in their inbox politically speaking, and I don't -- I don't anticipate she absolutely capital to allocution about it this morning because I don't apperceive if they accept a plan for.

STELTER: So, we've apparent all these numbers from a cardinal of above networks. Some of them timed to the Acclamation Day ceremony which is advancing up on Wednesday.

Eliana, one cardinal that stood out to me from the ABC/"Washington Post" poll is that 91 percent of Trump voters say they would vote for him again. So, alike acceptance we see a lot of adverse numbers in the Admiral Trump presidency, one ages his acclamation day, he still retains the abutment of his abject to a arresting degree.

ELIANA JOHNSON, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, POLITICO: You know, Brian, I'm not abiding what the political association of those historically low approval numbers are. The acclamation of 2016 was so bizarre. You know, it was not a acceptance contest. Voters banned both of Hillary Clinton and of Donald Trump.

STELTER: Right.

JOHNSON: And so, I'm not abiding how those approval numbers are activity to appulse the 2018 election, because the abridgement is assuming well, as Kellyanne Conway said, and so, I'm absolutely absorbed to see how the achievement of the abridgement will adverse antithesis his approval numbers.

And as you said, you know, Errol mentioned the article -- achievability of a primary claiming to Trump. I anticipate that's a alien prospect, the cardinal that you mentioned that 91 percent of Republican primary voters would vote for Trump again. It seems to me that he has a appealing able ballast on the party.

When you see bodies like Jeff Flake and Bob Corker who accept been abrupt critics of his backward and the primaries, I mean, the Alabama Senate primary, about you had two candidates aggravating to prove they're Trump bona fide. So, it does assume to me like he has rebranded the affair appealing auspiciously in his own image.

[11:30:01] I'd be afraid to see a primary claiming to him, but again, I anticipate we're in appealing abstinent area and that's why I don't anticipate alike acceptance historically low approval ratings about would be meaningful, I'm not absolutely abiding necessarily that we can backpack accomplished acquaint advanced in this case.

STELTER: And I'm attractive advanced to this Tuesday night. It's addition acclamation night in America, animate advantage on all the cablers already afresh with after-effects in Virginia and added states.

Eliana, Errol, amuse stick around. A quick breach actuality and afresh the Rupert Murdoch factor, the FOX factor, how pro-Trump media has been aggravating to discredit Robert Mueller.

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[11:35:02] STELTER: Hey, acceptable aback to RELIABLE SOURCES. I'm Brian Stelter.

We see appropriate addition media ambulatory about the president. To a clairvoyant like me, it looks a lot like Rupert Murdoch and the Trump administering accept accepted the aforementioned strategy, to casting doubts about Robert Mueller's analysis and abjure the accent of the advancing Russia probes.

When in doubt, axis to Hillary Clinton's declared misdeeds instead. That's so abundant added fun to allocution about. You know, Murdoch's "Wall Street Journal" afresh ran an beat advancement Mueller to footfall bottomward and Murdoch's Fox Annual has acquiescently amplified that message.

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SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: There's no way the American bodies can assurance Robert Mueller to investigate annihilation Russian related. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I accede with "The Wall Street Journal." He should

resign.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Robert Mueller charge be accursed immediately.

HANNITY: He should abandon anon tonight.

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STELTER: It's affectionate of funny, right? Because, obviously, Mueller's not activity to booty Sean Hannity's advice.

But some Republicans are listening. On Friday, three Abode Republicans confused to burden Mueller to abandon in a academic letter.

Back with me now, Eliana Johnson of "Politico". Additionally abutting me is Indira -- accumulate activity on the prompter there, Laksh -- you know, Indira, I don't appetite to blend up your name. How do I say it? I don't appetite to complete like an idiot?

INDIRA LAKSHMANAN, BOSTON GLOBE: I do it for you, Lakshmanan, Brian.

STELTER: I apologize. You know, I saw you a ceremony ago and I already messed it up.

LAKSHMANAN: That's OK.

STELTER: You're the Newmark Chair on Journalism Ethics. I'll acquaint our admirers that for Poynter, and columnist for the "Boston Globe." And additionally actuality with me, David Folkenflik, media contributor for NPR. He's the columnist of "Murdoch's World: The Aftermost of the Old Media Empires".

So, David, you've spent a lot of time advertisement on the Murdoch/Trump alliance. How generally are they in touch? How generally are they in touch? How generally do they communicate?

DAVID FOLKENFLIK, MEDIA CORRESPONDENT, NPR: I'd say it's appealing frequent. I'd say they're in draft by phone. They acquaint through circuits. But they don't accept to.

You apperceive what? Rupert Murdoch has accomplished what Donald Trump who is by no agency his admired applicant actuality for aftermost year's presidential election, what he's accomplished is what he's consistently capital in this country, the aforementioned he has in his built-in Australia and Britain, a absolute band to the actuality at the top of the pyramid of government. He's got, a awry admiral in his mind, the one he's activity to stick with as continued as he can.

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STELTER: Indira, does this beggarly Murdoch is a annihilative man in American politics? If he's bolstering up Admiral Trump acceptance these scandals and controversies?

LAKSHMANAN: Look, I anticipate that Rupert Murdoch has apparent that his business archetypal with Fox Annual is absolutely able to address to bodies who are adjoin the cachet quo in this case who abutment Donald Trump. I'm not necessarily abiding that he's activity to stick with this the able way along. I mean, I anticipate for him, as you mentioned, it's added of a business action than it is annihilation abroad because as David said, Trump was not his cardinal one candidate.

But it's alluring to see bodies like Sean Hannity advancement Mueller to footfall bottomward and the admiral repeating aback talking believability from Fox and by the way, obviously, "The New York Post" and "The Wall Street Journal" which are additionally endemic by Rupert Murdoch.

STELTER: Yes, you're right. "The New York Post" is allotment of this trifecta. "The Post" has appear pieces calumniating Mueller which, of course, you know, assessment columnists can say whatever they appetite but you alpha to admiration if there's article added than an draft activity on, a alternation of accidents here.

Eliana, you acclimated to assignment for Sean Hannity's appearance I think, right? How do you appearance this?

JOHNSON: I anticipate it's absolutely appropriate to say that this is a business action for Murdoch. Fox Annual is awfully financially successful, and you see the added Murdoch-owned entities demography a hardly altered line.

"The Wall Street Journal" was analytical of Mueller, it has been forth the band but it's demography a altered tact. It's analytical of appropriate admonition investigations and the appropriate admonition position, whether it's investigating Republicans or Democrats. It's affectionate of taken an intellectual, abstract tact.

And so, I wouldn't say that they've alone gone afterwards Bob Mueller.

But this is all business for Rupert Murdoch and David is absolutely right. He's consistently capital to accept a abutting claimed accord with the admiral of the United States and he's begin that he's been able to do that with Donald Trump.

STELTER: David?

FOLKENFLIK: You know, it strikes me that this is a business hypothesis on two levels. It's a business hypothesis because the Trump diehards are apparently allotment of the amount of the Fox Annual audience. Fox is afraid about actuality outflanked by "Breitbart", by Sinclair, by others. And at the aforementioned time, it's a business hypothesis because there's a lot of affairs in advanced of the federal government appropriate now. Rupert Murdoch has continued capital to be able to own alike added TV stations, newspapers, aforementioned talent. The FCC led by a affable administrator who had counseled be appointed has swept abroad assertive kinds of so- declared cantankerous buying restrictions.

STELTER: Right.

FOLKENFLIK: AT&T wants to booty over Time Warner, a ancestor aggregation of this network, CNN, and Murdoch has been advancement the abstraction of some roadblocks to be put up. He admired it be killed. But at minimum, it would be slowed bottomward and fabricated added closely, fabricated added problematic. Sinclair, you know, is aggravating to body a civic ascendancy from bounded stations. It's got abeyant of abacus Tribune media stations. You know, that's article that's afore federal regulators in advanced of the DOJ appropriate now.

STELTER: Right.

FOLKENFLIK: Again, business amount in advanced of federal government.

If he has a abutting acquaintance in the White House, about flawed, he's activity to try to stick by him.

[11:40;02] And you're seeing the after-effects of accomplishing that, alike aback accomplishing article so desperate as calling for the burden to be put for the battlefront of a appropriate prosecutor.

STELTER: And one added point on this and afresh we can put on the awning our blueprint of interviews that Admiral Trump has done with Fox Annual and afresh with added outlets. Nineteen, absolutely 20 interviews with Fox Annual aback commencement day, best afresh with new 10:00 p.m. host Laura Ingraham.

Eliana, does "Politico" try to accompany interviews with Trump as able-bodied and doesn't accept luck the way Fox does?

JOHNSON: That's absolutely right. I mean, I anticipate every boilerplate media aperture tries to sit bottomward with the admiral and I anticipate the actuality that Fox has had such luck is not necessarily Murdoch-driven but it's the fact, of course, that it's a actual affable network.

And the president, you know, he's not the blazon of guy who's animate the phones and talking to assembly at night. He's a media guy. He's a New York media guy and at night, he's talking to Sean Hannity, he's talking to Tucker Carlson. These are bodies he feels --

STELTER: Is that true, they allocution on the phone?

JOHNSON: Absolutely, yes. And so, these are bodies he absolutely feels adequate with. And so, aback he agrees to interviews, those are the guys he wants to sit bottomward with. Suffice it to say, you know, the admiral and I don't go way aback the way he does with some of these added guys.

STELTER: Eliana, acknowledge you so abundant for actuality here.

David and Indira, amuse stick around.

Up abutting here, Ronan Farrow animate on a new adventure about Harvey Weinstein's declared wrongdoing. He'll accompany me animate in aloof a moment.

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[11:45:32] STELTER: New this weekend, some NYPD detectives accept they accept abundant affirmation to arrest Harvey Weinstein. This is a capital affiche address of "The New York Post". Police investigations abide in New York and in L.A. absolutely one ages aback the aboriginal "New York Times" adventure about Weinstein's harassment. Aback then, of course, added and added able men accept been captivated to account. They've been accused of some affectionate of afflictive or assaulting behavior. We've apparent firings and resignations larboard and right.

So, what is next? Or maybe I should say, who is next?

Back with me now, Indira Lakshmanan of the "Boston Globe" and Poynter, NPR's David Folkenflik, and abutting us at the table, Ronan Farrow who advised Weinstein for ten months and appear this air-conditioned "New Yorker" adventure about declared assaults and rapes.

Ronan, acknowledgment for actuality here.

RON FARROW, CONTRIBUTOR, THE NEW YORKER: Acceptable to be here, Brian.

STELTER: I apperceive you're animate on addition piece. You previewed it on Colbert's appearance the added night. Can you acquaint us annihilation about what added advertisement there is to do about Weinstein?

FARROW: I anticipate one of the things this adventure has illustrated is you've got to be absolutely accurate with this reporting. Allotment of that is not accepting advanced of annihilation that hasn't been vetted, actuality arrested and put to print. I will say, look, there's absolutely added to say actuality about the affidavit why this backward quiet as continued as it did, and I anticipate some of the answers to that catechism will appear out in this reporting.

STELTER: Are there journalists or media outlets that are complicit?

FARROW: I'm not activity to get into the capacity on it. Look, I get that catechism a lot.

STELTER: Yes.

FARROW: Sincerely, we are in this moment area women are advancing advanced one afterwards addition in industry afterwards industry cogent the hardest belief of a lifetime, and I do anticipate that it's important to accumulate the focus on them.

STELTER: Did you anticipation this at all? Did you anticipate there would be this domino aftereffect afterwards Weinstein adventure hit?

FARROW: You know, no one could accept fathomed the admeasurement of this. This is a seismic change in ability in absolute time. And it opened up a attitude that was appropriate there beneath the surface, abundantly painful.

STELTER: Yes.

FARROW: And we're seeing the after-effects of that.

I absolutely knew aloof as a journalist, seeing the elements of this, audition the audio of him acceptance to one of these incidents --

STELTER: Right.

FARROW: -- aboriginal on in the advertisement that this was a actual significant, important adventure and to not run this adventure would be a contravention of my ethical duties.

STELTER: And NBC, who you're animate for, did not run the story. Accept they apologized to you for burying your story?

FARROW: Again, you know, we're at this moment area the women are advancing forward, they're accomplishing a boxy thing, and I don't appetite to become the adventure appropriate now. There may be added to say about that later. Certainly, I annual the question. It's important that media organizations do appropriate by belief like this, but I don't appetite to get into clandestine communications about that.

STELTER: Let's allocution added broadly about the advantage of this, really, this Weinstein effect. I abhorrence application his name, giving his name the aftereffect here, but as a aftereffect of the Harvey Weinstein belief we've apparent dozens of added men accused.

Indira, your appearance on this as a journalism belief expert, what are journalists accepting appropriate and accepting amiss while accoutrement these accounts of aggravation by arresting men in abounding industries?

LAKSHMANAN: Look, as Ronan said and I acclaim his advertisement and that of the "New York Times" that led to all of these allegations advancing out about Harvey Weinstein and afresh this barrage aftereffect which we absolutely didn't predict, this is draft in industries all over. Every industry you can anticipate of has animal harassment. The important affair is we're the media.

If we're captivation added bodies answerable in added industries, we charge to accomplish abiding that our own abode is in adjustment and we charge to be honest and cellophane about what's draft in our own industry as well. So that's why I anticipate it's absolutely important and I appetite to shout-out to the assignment that David Folkenflik has done, because autograph about your own annual alignment is a absolute assurance of believability and accountability.

If you can address about your own editor-in-chief actuality brought bottomward for aggravation allegations and allurement questions about why these were not advised beforehand or taken as actively as they could accept been, you know, that's absolutely important. I anticipate one affair --

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STELTER: Let me absolutely -- can I explain that to our admirers absolute quick, Indira?

LAKSHMANAN: Please.

STELTER: To explain the NPR context. One of the specific aggravation scandals this ceremony was involving Michael Oreskes, who was the above arch of annual at NPR. If you watched this program, you admit him. He has been on RELIABLE SOURCES about a dozen times in the accomplished brace of years. On Wednesday, he accommodated beneath burden afterwards the "Washington post" abundant aggravation allegations in his past.

I appetite to allotment with the admirers what happened afterwards that. I heard from a woman who watched Oreskes on this affairs a brace of months ago who saw him, was afflicted by his continuing up for journalism, followed me on Twitter, and as a result, there was a conversation, there was a dinner.

[11:50:02] She declared aggravation by Oreskes and afresh she aggregate that with me the added day. It was actual aching to apprehend that, and, David, you can chronicle to this. It was actual aching to apprehend these allegations adjoin a baton in the journalism profession but now, added than bisected a dozen women accept appear forward, alleging your above bang-up was behaving this way. Now, he's apologized for his behavior and he's no best at NPR.

But what was it like for you as Indira was adage to accept to awning this central your own house?

FOLKENFLIK: Well, it's acutely a disappointment. Initially aback annual bankrupt on Tuesday, I accept it was, the "Washington Post", the two women had appear advanced with complaints that were about too decades old, in a sense, you'd say, oh, that's disappointing. It seems distant.

But I had accepted article else, which is that I ahead appear on an beforehand instance, a complaint had been filed in October of 2015. I had not appear that about because the incident, alike by the complaints account, was about accessory in her cerebration at that time. I was not able to acquisition any pattern. I was not able to acquisition any arrangement in antecedent behavior. I didn't apperceive of the "New York Times" incidents from Oreskes was Washington agency chief.

And aback the actuality came advanced in the "Washington Post", it was like two behindhand of a cookie came together. It's article -- you had article you absolutely had to go with. So, in contempo days, I accept announced to nine women, some of them still at NPR from a anchorman in her 20s to a ambassador in her 50s. Each with instances which are not as astringent as what Ronan has been advertisement on so ably and so importantly, and yet, nonetheless add up to an insidious pattern, an abusive, array of hierarchal ascendancy application his position in journalism to try to get adjacency to women who ability be affected to his appeals.

STELTER: And NPR has accustomed you to awning this absolutely on-air?

FOLKENFLIK: NPR, we accept absolutely a appealing abutting agreement there area I assignment with a brace of editors who accept annihilation to do with the incidents on the matter. It's a moment you accept a abundant aggregation for the newsroom, we approved actual adamantine journalistically to animate our ethics and I achievement that that's what our (INAUDIBLE) acquisition us to do.

STELTER: David, Ronan, Indira, acknowledge you all for actuality here. You can analysis out David's advertisement about this on NPR.org.

And up abutting here, a big draft to bounded annual advantage in some of the country's better cities.

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[11:56:21] STELTER: On Monday, laid off reporters from the admired bounded new sites "DNAinfo" and "Gothamist" are set to a assemblage actuality in New York in abutment of absolute journalism. Aloof a few canicule afterwards the owners of the sites, Joe Ricketts, abruptly absitively to shut bottomward the sites. One hundred 115 bodies are afterwards jobs in New York, D.C., Chicago, L.A., and San Francisco.

It's a decidedly aching archetype of an advancing deepening botheration -- cutbacks to bounded annual advantage both in big cities and in baby towns all beyond America.

Back with me now, Spectrum Annual ballast Errol Louis.

Errol, you talked about it on your network, New York 1, over the weekend. Your bulletin actuality that viewers, readers accept to booty a albatross here, accept a pale in befitting newsrooms alive.

LOUIS: That's right. Aback your bounded accessible radio or television base is allurement for a donation, it's not a joke. It's not for the tote bag, you know? It's to absolutely ensure that we've got article what we alarm an ecosystem, or some adaptation of able-bodied aggressive annual ambiance in which we can ascendancy the able accountable. It's abundantly important.

And, you know, it's actual accessible to absence the point that aloof because your circadian bi-weekly continues to appear out, it's thinner, it's smaller. There's beneath reporters. They're not able to accommodate the affectionate of advantage that we did in the past.

As continued as that continues, the bodies in ability will get abroad with murder. The accumulated leaders, the political leaders, especially, bribery goes absolved or unnoticed. There are a lot of bad consequences. It's about imperceptible. So --

STELTER: Right, the belief that aren't told that you don't apperceive about.

LOUIS: Absolutely right. And, frankly, it's the outrages that are not attempted because they apperceive there's activity to be somebody there at the canton agency recording what they say and comparing it to what they promised aftermost year.

STELTER: Interesting.

LOUIS: As continued as that faculty of dispensation is there, we're activity to accept huge, huge problems. And it's not activity away. This is a botheration that bodies accept approved to ambition away. They approved to array of cut their way out of it by slicing to the bone. Bodies anticipation there would be abstruse solutions. None of that has panned out so far.

STELTER: The declines started about 10 years ago, right? We can see it on a aisle and it's been decline since. But this week's cutbacks, the abrupt closures of these admired sites actuality in New York was a angle out example, because Ricketts said he did it because he couldn't accomplish the business work. The agents feels because they accept aloof amalgamated like a ceremony earlier.

LOUIS: A ceremony earlier.

STELTER: What do you accomplish of that?

LOUIS: Well, look, the reality, if you abuse to, and afresh absolutely act on a blackmail to blaze bodies aloof because they unionize. You're in abuse of federal law. That's a problem.

What you can do, ironically, is shut bottomward the absolute business unit, which is what Mr. Ricketts chose to do. And in that case, article agnate happened with Walmart. A accumulation of butchers unionized. And rather than try to handle that or animate with it, or God forbid pay everybody at the akin --

STELTER: Right.

LOUIS: -- they took the butchers out of Walmart.

STELTER: Oh, I see.

LOUIS: You know, this is a strategy.

And so, there's an animal union-busting aberration to this. That it deals whether or not we appetite journalists who are accouterment basic admonition about important capacity to be paid a fair and active wage. So, you accept that little array of aberration on the basal botheration but the absoluteness is, none of this would be as abounding of an affair if we can amount out a way to array of accomplish bounded annual applicable as a business model.

STELTER: Right. Errol, acceptable to see you, acknowledge you for actuality here.

LOUIS: Acknowledge you.

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