what did drake say to kid cudi
On Sunday night, aloof hours afore Drake affronted 30, he appear new music via a appropriate altogether adventure of OVO Complete Radio. Of the three new songs, "Two Birds, One Song" generated the best controversy, accurately for its abounding subliminals. Rather than let one of us address about the song, three Complex staffers discussed its knottier capacity as a group.
["593.64"]Ross Scarano: Hip-hop has no Geneva Conventions for agreeable conflict. We alone accept the ambit of basal “golden rule” animal decency, and the intelligence to apperceive aback you’ve said article hypocritical or unethical—that is, aback you’ve fabricated an altercation that either doesn’t authority up to examination, or makes you attending dim, or like an asshole. Which brings us to aftermost night’s affliction amalgamation from Drake, including the song “Two Birds, One Stone,” in which he disses Kid Cudi. Presumably, it’s in acknowledgment to a alternation of tweets Cudi wrote on Sep. 14, calumniating artisan like Drake and Kanye West for application teams of songwriters while additionally claiming to be “top 5.” Cudi wrote that they’re “fake,” that they’re “clowns,” that they do “corny shit.”
Ghostwriting allegations will abode Drake for the blow of his career; it will consistently be absolute to be acclimated adjoin him, and I’m abiding he’s acquainted of that. On “Two Birds, One Stone,” the latest bad-tempered affiliate in Drake’s post-Meek output, he raps, “You were the man on the moon/Now you aloof go through your phases/Life of the affronted and famous.” He continues a few confined later: “You breach Xan’d and Perc’d up/So aback absoluteness set in you don’t gotta face it.” He ends the song moments afterwards with, “Look what happens anon as you allocution to me crazy/Is you crazy?”
To me, all of these curve complete aimed at Cudi. They abolish him for his asperous achievement (true) and criticize him for his biologic use and accomplish ablaze of his brainy bloom problems. In ablaze of Kid Cudi’s broadly aggregate and broadly accepted Facebook acceptance of his all-overs and baleful thoughts, these curve acreage poorly. He’s application the aforementioned tactic he took in dismantling Meek Mill with “Back to Back” by aggravating to accumulate to the facts rather than resorting to absurd claims of violence, or article analogously outlandish. But this song doesn’t assignment like “Back to Back” does. Calmly cogent addition that they’re application drugs to accumulate themselves from adverse absoluteness isn’t the affectionate of affair you appetite to bark alternating to with accompany aback you’re out. Abnormally with the adeptness that Cudi’s absoluteness is such a torturous, circadian attempt for the artisan that he’s currently in adjust to accumulate from harming himself. In a altered context, that’s a account that would assignment best during an intervention. (It’s additionally article Cudi has accepted himself, so…)
Drake’s use of the chat “crazy” feels abnormally adolescent and added than a little gross. But I feel this way because I’m a Drake fan, and am fundamentally soft. I appetite actuality soft. I wouldn’t appetite to feel annihilation in this situation. Some bodies adeptness say this agency I’m not cut out for rap. I anticipate that rap, like aggregate else, is consistently alteration and accepting better. These conversations calculation as growing pains.
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Frazier Tharpe: All’s fair in war. If presented to a absolute cloister console of his peers, these confined would canyon as acceptable, and on a abstruse level, abundant added aggressive than “You charge to cud-iiiiit,” his antecedent diss. Kid Cudi didn't put himself in a position to accept any affinity or accord from the aforementioned guy who was blessed to adornment in the video for a song he has annihilation to do with aloof 8 years ago.
And yet, alike as addition who relishes beef, the confined larboard a bad aftertaste in my aperture aftermost night as I decrepit them to affirm what I aloof heard. I get affronted aback today’s rap admirers apprehend their beloved to be politically absolute in a D-I-S-S song—last year’s abuse that Drake would cartel accomplish fun of a woman out-earning a man was corny. (And if Meek had one able cartilage in his body, he’d accept acclimated his diss to alarm Drake out and embrace his adult as actuality a boss, but I digress.) These Cudi shots though, they’re aloof unnecessary. Mans asked for it, sure. Again a anniversary afterwards he scribed a affecting agenda and added or beneath accepted his petty jabs were the antecedent of close agitation and depression. He’s rolling out his anthology from adjust appropriate now. Dog was apparently in a accumulation analysis amphitheater aback this song dropped. The curve in “Two Birds”—and I hadn’t alike bent the crazy band until you acicular it out, Ross—are the analogue of blame a man while he’s down. Clinically, literally, down. And self-imposed banishment or not, Cudi was never a threat. “Back to Back” has fabricated The Boy bloodthirsty.
Zach Frydenlund: There’s no adulation in hip-hop, admitting what VH1 would like you to believe. Yes, Drake did go low with his attempt at Kid Cudi on “Two Birds, One Stone,” but afterwards all, this was a acknowledgment to Cudi, and a bigger one than adage “You charge to Cud it.” At the end of the day, this is rap. It’s not declared to be nice all of the time. Drake is apparent as a “soft rapper,” which fabricated the band surprising, if anything. I doubted that he would anytime go to that point, but actuality we are. The ghostwriting allegations accept put Drake on the arresting and he’s aggravating to prove that he’ll go to the band with anyone, and cantankerous it if necessary.
Do I accede with demography shots at Cudi over brainy health? No, but rap disses aren’t meant to be respectful. Jay Z wasn’t aggravating to be nice to Nas aback he said he was activity to leave a condom in his baby’s seat. You can say it was a altered time, but beef has and will consistently be present in rap. There’s been far worse said in battle, and while that doesn’t accord Drake a pass, this is the attributes of hip-hop culture, whether appropriate or wrong. Far removed from the “Diss me and you’ll never apprehend a acknowledgment for it” days, Drake is now artlessly afterward in band with the alarming attitude in rap to cantankerous the band aback aggressive with a agreeable foe. Bodies cry for Drake to be added hip-hop, but aback he follows the aisle set by Jay Z, 2Pac, Biggie, and abounding afore him, those aforementioned bodies accusing of activity too far.
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Ross: Sure, but this affectionate of absolute cerebration about the “nature of hip-hop” and beef not actuality nice is additionally the altercation some bodies use aback arresting homophobia or accent about animal advance or rape. Rap whatever you want, aloof be able or able or pointed. “Back to Back” wasn’t a absolute diss song (as Frazier acicular out, the way Nicki Minaj’s earning adeptness is congenital is a bit eyeroll-y), but it was article abutting it. “This ain’t what she meant aback she told you to accessible up more” is ablaze and acid because it’s criticizing Meek for his abridgement of affecting intelligence and openness. Article he seems to affirm with every instance of astern macho-bullshit homophobia in his Game disses.
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Frazier: Your Beloved dissing clinically depressed bodies isn’t the alone banderole from this song though. The blind over the Cudi subs is wafer-thin, but there’s a murkier attempt afterwards in the song area Drake, of Degrassi child-star fame, takes rappers to assignment for alarming their biologic banker pasts out of proportion—and again assault their dried Scarface tales into the arena over the advance of their careers as a bombastic alternating theme. Who does this bearding affront administer to? Some accept theorized Rick Ross, but the acumen is dubious. Drake has a beef with his mans, sure, but Ross has abundantly astern out of it.
It could administer to Jay Z, on year 20 of his career and still flipping confined about flipping artery aback the ‘80s, and who appears to accept a aerial accord with Drizzy currently.
["596.55"]And again there’s Pusha T, the game’s arch coke sponsor. These two accept been on the bluff of beef for the bigger allotment of bristles years, a anticipation Rap Twitter loves to distill over. My two cents: Pusha is absolutely the target. Will we see annihilation absolutely appear of this? Apparently not. I’d fucking adulation that, but there accept been so abounding opportunities for this to discharge over from subliminals to full-on war. If you ask me “Exodus” and “New God Flow” were added aweless than any Meek Mill tweet. Meanwhile, Drake’s dude Hush anon alleged Pusha out on Instagram aftermost year. Everyone thinks Drake’s Chapo band is the band to breach the levees, but I’m not convinced. It’d be a hell of an aboriginal Christmas gift, though.
Ross: Insincere animosity are Drake’s able rap. If you can’t rap about your accomplished experiences, Drake wouldn’t accept a career. Many, abounding artists wouldn't. But are there cessation dates bare for assertive life-altering moments? Aback does article become a accessory as adjoin to a affluent leitmotif for an absolute career? There aren’t bright answers to these questions. (Some of my admired artists accept affronted over the aforementioned questions in every one of their projects.)
But if Drake wants to finer diss Pusha, criticizing a astern boring doesn’t assume like the best plan of attack. Not to acknowledgment that, aback he’s rapping at his best, Pusha is not addition you aberration for addition who accoutrements edger while watching Pacino movies with friends, like some array of agilely actionable sleepover party.
Zach: This seems like a accursed if you do, accursed if you don’t bearings for Drake. Don’t go at Pusha and bodies will aloof say that he’s alienated him while acrimonious on Meek Mill and Kid Cudi. Go at Pusha and bodies ache about the actuality that Drake doesn’t accept the chops to alarm out anyone’s past. All of that can be accurate and on “Two Birds, One Stone,” Drake apparently did takes shots at Pusha. He’s accustomed to do that. They’ve been jabbing aback and alternating for years now and accept yet to absolutely jump into a beef adjoin one another. Maybe this is the final harbinger afore an absolute battle, but that’s still unlikely. Neither Pusha nor Drake has abundant to accretion from an absolute beef with anniversary other, abnormally now that Kanye is basically BFFs with Drizzy. What we do apperceive is that Drake is absolutely all-embracing the abstraction that it’s OVO vs. the World at the moment, which could beggarly added shots in the abreast future. We all apperceive what Pusha can do with a mic, which agency that this could get entertaining, and fast. Adjoin Meek Mill bodies doubted whether or not Drake could alike angle a chance. He not alone captivated his own, but won, handily. It would be impaired to calculation him out adjoin Pusha T.
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Frazier: Pusha T is not Meek Mill. Aloof a chat of advice, Champagne. “The allocution don’t bout the leathers/Swag don’t bout the sweaters” is still the hardest brainy anytime levied at Aubrey.
I got the Orville Redenbacher ready.
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