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This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. Afore we get to today's interview, I appetite to say how greatly afflicted I am by this alternation of catastrophes - hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria, and now the accumulation cutting in Las Vegas. To anybody who is suffering, to anybody who has absent a admired one, or been injured, or absent their home or their job, to anybody who is still in shock from actuality a witness, we are cerebration of you and achievement you acquisition whatever it is you charge to backpack on.

Today's appearance is about added sad news. Tom Petty, the songwriter, accompanist and guitarist who led the bandage the Heartbreakers, died bygone afterwards adversity cardiac arrest. He was 66. Aloof a ceremony afore his death, Petty had completed a civic bout appearance the 40th ceremony of the band's formation. He had told Rolling Stone he advised it to be his aftermost civic tour, but he would abide to accrue playing.

We're activity to accept ashamed to the account I recorded with him in 2006 ashamed Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were adulatory their 30th ceremony of their aboriginal recording. Their best-known songs accommodate "American Girl," "I Won't Ashamed Down," "Listen To Her Heart," "Don't Do Me Like That," and "Runnin' Bottomward A Dream." And this one, "Breakdown."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "BREAKDOWN")

TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS: (Singing) It's all appropriate if you adulation me. It's all appropriate if you don't. I'm not abashed of you active away, honey. I get the activity you won't. You see, there is no faculty in pretend. Your eyes accord you away. Article central you is activity like I do. We've said all there is to say. Baby, breach down, go ahead, accord it to me. Breach down, honey, booty me through the night.

Baby, baby, breach down. Breach down

now, I'm continuing here, can't you see? Breach down, it's all right. It's all right. It's all right.

GROSS: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were inducted into the Bedrock & Cycle Hall of Fame in 2002, the aboriginal year they were eligible. As a affiliate of the bandage the Traveling Wilburys from 1988 to 1990, Petty performed with several of the bodies he best admired - Bob Dylan, George Harrison and Roy Orbison.

When I batten with Petty in 2006, he'd aloof arise a abandoned anthology of new songs alleged "Highway Companion." At the time, he was hosting his own appearance on the XM Satellite Radio network. I asked him what radio meant to him as a kid.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)

TOM PETTY: Everything. You know, I still see it as this absolutely bewitched thing, and it was wonderful. I didn't accept the money to accept a all-inclusive almanac collection. So I abstruse everything, really, from the radio. And the - and in the - you know, and in the mid '60s, AM radio - pop radio - was aloof this absurd affair that played all kinds of music. You know, aloof - you could apprehend Frank Sinatra appropriate into the Yardbirds, you know, to the Beatles into Dean Martin. It was aloof - it was this amazing thing.

And I absence it, in a way, because music has become so compartmentalized now. But in those days, it was all appropriate in one spot. And that's - you know, we acclimated to apprentice - you know, ashamed I was 15 or 16, arena in groups, we acclimated to sit in the car and try to address the lyrics bottomward as the song was playing. And we'd accredit anniversary actuality a verse. You know, I'm activity to do the aboriginal one, and you go for the additional one. And afresh sometimes, you'd delay an hour for it to arise on again, you know, so you could accomplishment it up. But...

GROSS: What's a song you did that with?

PETTY: I'll acquaint you, the hardest one was "Get Off Of My Cloud" by the Stones. It had so abounding words.

GROSS: Oh, and fast, too (laughter), yeah.

PETTY: Oh, and yeah, and it took us a acceptable three hours to get that one accounting down. But it was that affectionate of thing. It was a friend, you know? We - and it was article that was there. You didn't absolutely anticipate about it that much. But attractive ashamed on it, it was such a agreeable education.

GROSS: Well, I appetite to comedy addition clue from your new CD, "Highway Companion." And this is a song alleged "Down South." Is there a adventure abaft the song?

PETTY: Yeah, this was a - I had a - a continued time ago, I had done a conceptual almanac about the South alleged "Southern Accents." And this one was aggressive by a book by a adolescent alleged Warren Zanes - had accounting this book about the South, and I apprehend it, and I was absolutely afflicted by it. And afresh I started thinking, well, you know, what if I - you know, I haven't been ashamed there in a long, continued time. I lived there, you know, 35 years ago and grew up there. But I went - you know, aloof affectionate of went ashamed in my mind, and a adventure started to affectionate of advance and appear.

And I'm not absolutely abiding who that appearance is, but I'm - I apperceive allotment of it's me. And I wrote it - God, I wrote it affectionate of quickly. I wrote it - I wrote the lyrics out aboriginal afore I did the music, which is abnormal for me. And I - afresh I searched for a continued time to acquisition music that created the appropriate tonal affectionate of affair with the lyric and the - and I - and had to acquisition a melody that went with it. So it took a little while to cull the accomplished affair together, but it's one that I'm best admiring with from the record.

GROSS: Well, why don't we apprehend it? This is "Down South" from Tom Petty's new CD, "Highway Companion."

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "DOWN SOUTH")

PETTY: (Singing) Heading ashamed bottomward South, activity to see my daddy's mistress, activity to buy ashamed her forgiveness, activity to pay off every witness. One added time bottomward South - and advertise the ancestors headstones, and annoyance a bag of dry basic and accomplish acceptable all my ashamed loans. So if I arise to your door, let me beddy-bye on your floor. I'll accord you all I accept and a little more. Beddy-bye backward bottomward South...

GROSS: That's "Down South" from Tom Petty's new CD, "Highway Companion." I appetite to ask you about a brace of curve in that song. You said you're not absolutely abiding who the appearance is in it, but the song has, headed ashamed bottomward south, activity to see my Daddy's mistress, activity to buy ashamed her forgiveness. Did you go ashamed home to see your father's mistresses? Is that allotment of the appearance you?

PETTY: (Laughter) My father's had abounding mistresses. I never fabricated a specific cruise to accommodated them. But my dad was - he was hell on wheels, you know? He was absolutely a character. And he was one of those bodies that was - somehow remained likeable, admitting he was absolutely a cad, you know? But...

(LAUGHTER)

PETTY: But I - you know, I don't absolutely apperceive breadth the - I assumption the bandage aloof popped into my head, and it seemed a acceptable way to alpha it.

GROSS: Now, article I appetite to acknowledgment about the clue that we aloof heard - you know, it has that affectionate of clinking accent guitar.

PETTY: Yeah.

GROSS: ...That you play. How did you alpha arena in that style?

PETTY: I don't know. It aloof appeared. I anticipate we were aggressive a lot by Roger McGuinn of the Byrds and his 12-string playing. And it was aloof article that came to me naturally, and I affectionate of took it from there, and I anticipate we've developed it into our own thing. But I'm abiding it comes back, you know, from the Byrds, from - you apprehend that complete in a lot of aboriginal '60s records. And the Beatles acclimated it a lot. Dylan acclimated it. And amid myself and Mike Campbell, our guitarist, we've - we aloof accomplish that complete ashamed we comedy now. It - I'd - I'm not absolutely as acquainted of it as added bodies are, but it aloof affectionate of happens.

GROSS: You grew up in Gainesville, Fla. I know...

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PETTY: Yeah.

GROSS: I anticipate there's a annex of the University of Florida in Gainesville, right?

PETTY: It is there, the University of Florida, the accomplished thing.

GROSS: So were you in a academy allotment of Gainesville, or were you in a altered allotment of town?

PETTY: No, I was in the redneck, hillbilly part.

(LAUGHTER)

PETTY: I wasn't allotment of the bookish circle, but it's an absorbing abode because you can accommodated about any affectionate of actuality from abounding walks of activity because of the university. But it's absolutely amidst by this affectionate of actual rural affectionate of bodies that are - you know, they're farmers or, you know, tractor drivers or, you know, aloof all affectionate of adventurous wardens. You name it, you know? So it's an absorbing blend.

My ancestors wasn't complex in the college, you know? They were added of a - aloof your white debris affectionate of, you know, family. And so I accept that affectionate of background. But I consistently affectionate of aspired to be article else. And I fabricated a lot of altered accompany over the years that were, you know, casual through.

GROSS: What did your parents do for a living?

PETTY: Well, my mother formed in the tax collector's appointment and - as a clerk. And my dad had a array of jobs, you know, from - at one point, he endemic the abandoned grocery abundance in the atramentous allotment of town, the abandoned atramentous grocery abundance that catered abandoned to atramentous people. And so I acclimated to go bottomward there ashamed I was absolutely young, and I was aloof put out in the back. And so it was abnormal to me that I'd comedy all day with atramentous kids and afresh they'd accompany me ashamed to our, you know, little suburb that we lived in and it was all white kids, you know? And afresh from there, he went - he did a accomplished bandage of altered jobs of actuality an allowance salesman, a barter disciplinarian - all kinds of altered things.

GROSS: Now, you had an uncle - I assumption this is a acclaimed adventure in your activity because you got to accommodated Elvis Presley on a cine set ashamed you were 11 through an uncle of castigation who was accomplishing article on the set, admitting I'm not abiding what.

PETTY: Yeah, yeah. I had an uncle by alliance who was the affectionate of - he was actual into film. He was the guy in boondocks that developed all the film, and he had a cine camera. He acclimated to blur the academy basketball practices and football practices. And ashamed a cine came nearby, as a lot of them did about arctic Florida, he would usually appoint on to set and assignment in some capacity. And he was animate on an Elvis Presley cine in 1961 I think. "Follow That Dream," it was called. And I was arrive there by my aunt - accumulating me bottomward to see Elvis. And I absolutely didn't accept abundant abstraction who Elvis was. I was abandoned 11.

But we did absolutely go there, and it was absolutely of a circus, you apperceive - a lot of - as you'd expect, you know, mobs in the street. And he was aloof ashamed from the Army and - but I didn't absolutely allocution with him. I mean, he aloof array of nodded my way, you know? I was alien by my uncle as, you apperceive - this is - these are my nephew, and my two cousins were with me. And he aloof - I don't bethink what he said really, but I was actual afflicted by it.

And ashamed I went home, I affectionate of scoured the adjacency and came up with some old Elvis records. And I started alert to them, and they absolutely took me over it, you know? And these were all '50s records. And I had a acquaintance whose beforehand sister had gone to academy and larboard this admirable box of 45s of bedrock and roll, you know, from the '50s. And I admired it, you know? It aloof batten to me.

GROSS: So how continued did it booty afterwards that until you started to comedy article yourself?

PETTY: Well, the abstraction never dawned on me until I saw the Beatles on "The Ed Sullivan Show" like so abounding musicians did. Ashamed I saw it, you know, I didn't anticipate you could aloof become a bedrock 'n' cycle singer. I didn't see how it could happen, you know, because you bare to be in a cine and accept the music arise on the bank and stuff.

GROSS: (Laughter).

PETTY: So I didn't see how one would get that together, you know? So ashamed I saw the Beatles, it array of hit me like a lightning bolt to the academician that, oh, I see, you know? You accept your friends, and you all apprentice an instrument, and you're a independent unit. This is brilliant, you know? And this looks like a great, abundant job to me. And allegedly it did to lots of bodies because actual bound afterwards that, there were bands forming, you know, in garages all over town. And I was aloof one in, you know, bags of little bands that started afresh and about '64, '65.

GROSS: We're alert ashamed to a 2006 account with Tom Petty. He died bygone afterwards adversity cardiac arrest. We'll apprehend added of the account afterwards a break. This is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS SONG, "LISTEN TO HER HEART")

GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. We're canonizing songwriter, singer, guitarist and bandleader Tom Petty. He died bygone at the age of 66. Afore we get ashamed to my 2006 account with him, let's apprehend his hit "American Girl" from his aboriginal anthology with the Heartbreakers.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "AMERICAN GIRL")

TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS: (Singing) Well, she was an American bairn aloft on promises. She couldn't advice cerebration that there was a little added to activity about else. Afterwards all, it was a great, big apple with lots of places to run to. Yeah, and if she had to die trying, she had one little affiance she was activity to keep. Oh, yeah, all right, booty it easy, baby. Accomplish it aftermost all night. She was an American girl. Well, it was affectionate of algid at night. She stood abandoned on...

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)

GROSS: "American Girl" - my bedfellow is Tom Petty. Now, beforehand you were talking about how, you know, Roger McGuinn and The Byrds afflicted you and afflicted your guitar sound. He afterwards recorded this song. What did it beggarly to you to years later, afterwards accepting been afflicted by him, to accept him almanac your song?

PETTY: Oh, I was stunned. I couldn't accept it. And you know, I couldn't believe, you apperceive - bodies said, you complete like The Byrds. Well, we couldn't accept that we would, you apperceive - alike had the aptitude to complete like The Byrds, you know? So we - I was actual taken ashamed by it, and I was bound arrive over to accommodated Roger McGuinn. And I was actual intimidated, but I went over and met him. And he told me that - he said, ashamed I aboriginal heard this record, I anticipation it was - for a few minutes, I anticipation it was a Byrds outtake. And he arrive us on bout with him. And we did go out on bout and became friends. We're still accompany to this day, really.

GROSS: Did you become any added or beneath acquainted or affected about his access on you ashamed you were animate and touring with him?

PETTY: Able-bodied we consistently capital actual abundant to actualize our own sound, you know? We knew that if we became aloof clones of something, it wasn't activity to aftermost long. And so you know, I aloof - I approved to booty whatever influences I had and accomplish them amalgamate calm into article that was, you know, our own sound. And we somehow did that. I don't apperceive how.

But you know, if you accept to those records, you know, the aboriginal annal we did - I mean, if you apprehend - I've heard that we'd complete like Bob Dylan or we complete like The Byrds. But I can't account The Byrds accomplishing Refugee or Bob Dylan accomplishing that or, you know, or Breach Bottomward or things like that. I anticipate we did acquisition our own sound. But anybody in music absolutely comes from, you apperceive - they all are afflicted by added artists.

GROSS: We're alert ashamed to my 2006 account with Tom Petty. He died yesterday. We'll apprehend added of the account afterwards a abbreviate break. This is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "REFUGEE")

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PETTY: (Singing) We've got something. We both apperceive it. We don't allocution too abundant about It - ain't no absolute big secret. All the same, somehow we get about it. Listen. It don't absolutely amount to me, babe. You accept what you appetite to believe. You see, you don't accept to animate like refugee.

(Singing) Somewhere, somehow somebody charge accept kicked you about some. Acquaint me why you appetite to lay there and bacchanal in your abandon. It don't accomplish no aberration to me, baby. Everybody's had to action to be free. You see, you don't accept to animate like a refugee. No, baby, you don't accept to animate like a refugee.

(SOUNDBITE OF PATTI SMITH SONG, "WITHIN YOU WITHOUT YOU")

GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross. We're canonizing Tom Petty, who died of cardiac arrest bygone anon afterwards commutual a civic tour. Let's get ashamed to the account I recorded with him in 2006.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)

GROSS: Let me comedy addition song that was - it's a abundant song, and it was a actual able song of yours. Johnny Cash recorded the song backward in his life. And the song is "I Won't Ashamed Down," which you recorded in 1989. I apperceive it's adamantine to allocution about autograph songs, but is there a adventure abaft this one?

PETTY: I wrote this song with Jeff Lynne. We wrote it in the flat while we were bond addition song. And it came actual quickly. And I was absolutely afraid about it. I anticipation that it was maybe aloof too direct. You know, I thought, well, there isn't absolutely annihilation to adumbrate abaft here, you know? It's actual adventurous and actual blunt. There's not a lot of allegory or any - you know, anywhere to go. But I was encouraged by Jeff that, you know, no. It's absolutely good. You should almanac this and go advanced with it. And it's angry out to be maybe, you know, the one song that's had the best access on bodies that access me on the artery or allocution to me in a restaurant or wherever I go or mail that I've gotten over the years. It's been absolutely important to a lot of bodies in their lives. And I'm animated I wrote it. And I'm affectionate of appreciative of it these days. And I was very, actual appreciative ashamed Johnny Cash did it.

GROSS: Well, let's apprehend it. From 1989, this is Tom Petty.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "I WON'T BACK DOWN")

TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS: (Singing) Well, I won't ashamed down. No, I won't ashamed down. You can angle me up at the gates of hell, but I won't ashamed down. No, I'll angle my ground, won't be angry around. And I'll accrue this apple from boring me down. Activity to angle my arena and I won't ashamed down. I won't ashamed down. Hey, baby, there ain't no accessible way out. I won't ashamed down. Hey, I will angle my arena and I won't ashamed down. Well, I apperceive what's right. I got aloof one life.

GROSS: That's Tom Petty recorded in 1989. He has a new CD that's alleged "Highway Companion."

You recorded that song aloof a brace of years afterwards an agitator austere bottomward your house. The abode was set on blaze while you and your ancestors were in it. Did your instincts bang in like they were declared to ashamed you accomplished that your abode was on blaze and that you and your wife and adolescent had to get out of there?

PETTY: They bang in appealing fast ashamed your abode is on fire. Yeah, they kicked in absolutely fast. And it was a appealing alarming affair to happen. And I did aloof survive with the - you know, the clothes on my back. But I - I don't know. Maybe, you know, that had article to do with the songs like "I Won't Ashamed Down" and things because I acquainted absolutely animated that they didn't get me, you know? Like, I affectionate of aloof - that was the anticipation that was activity through my head, was, well, you bastard, you didn't get me. You know, I survived.

But it's actual adamantine to alike accept that addition wants to annihilate you, you know? It's a actual adamantine affair to go through. And, you know, ashamed the badge and the arson bodies are cogent me that, you know, addition did it, I'm aloof going, well, absolutely there's a mistake, you know? It charge accept been a bad wire, you know? And, you know, they were absolutely abiding there was no mistake. So the absorbing affair about that is how abounding bodies alleged and accepted the afterward day.

GROSS: (Laughter) You're kidding. Really?

PETTY: You apperceive - yeah. They were confessing from all over America. And it was like, you know, bodies in New Jersey would alarm and confess. Afresh I accomplished aloof how bonkers bodies are, you know? And it's like there (laughter) are some bodies that are absolutely bonkers. And you accept to be careful. But, you know, that was - you know, I never absolutely talked about that abundant because it abashed me so deeply. And I'm abiding it had a abundant aftereffect on the music I did because I came ashamed with this actual positive, blessed affectionate of music that I didn't appetite to go into any aphotic bend or annihilation like that. I was aloof so animated to be animate and to accept able article like that. And, you know, it was additionally absolutely alarming and terrible, but allotment of it fabricated me absolutely be added animated to aloof be alive.

GROSS: Did you anytime acquisition out who the agitator was?

PETTY: Oh, no. No, we never did. And they absolutely approved for years, you know? But they never bent him.

GROSS: Did it accomplish you added apprehensive of fans, cerebration that maybe it was one of your admirers who had, you know, been mentally ill, who approved to annihilate you?

PETTY: Well, it makes you - unfortunately, it makes you a little alert of people, you know, in accepted that you don't know. And, you know, you do accept to accept aegis bodies and that affectionate of affair ashamed you're activity to be in a accessible situation. And, you know, that's adverse but, you know, that's aloof allotment of accessible life, I guess. You know, that, you know, there's consistently some - there's consistently the adventitious that someone's activity to be a little all-a-quiver out there.

GROSS: Of aggregate that you absent in the fire, which was I assumption about aggregate you owned, what do you absence the most? And what surprises you that you never absolutely absent it?

PETTY: You know, I mostly absent photographs and, you know, all of the video I had of my accouchement ashamed they were young. Things like that I absolutely missed. And to acquaint you the truth, there wasn't annihilation abroad I absolutely cared about. You know, I didn't - it's funny. Like, you accrue actuality so fast, too. You know, I went from - you know, it was absolutely a big abode abounding of actuality and I went from that to aloof active in a auberge allowance with nothing. And, you know, in a year or two, you've accumulated so abundant clutter you aloof go, oh, my God, I can't accept this. But, you know, you apprentice actual bound that annihilation abroad absolutely mattered much.

GROSS: I apperceive you had addition bad aeon in your activity in the backward '90s, a bad depression. You afar from your aboriginal wife. I apprehend that you lived in a berth for a while. I assumption at some point...

PETTY: Yeah, that's depressing.

GROSS: That's depressing, right. Well, it articulate like it was a appealing - I don't know. It sounds like it was a appealing briefing cabin, but you could acquaint me about the cabin. But I guess, like, the bliss of actuality animate abandoned lasts so long.

PETTY: Well, you know, it's - actuality alive's, you know, it's a challenge, isn't it?

GROSS: Right.

(LAUGHTER)

PETTY: But, you know, I - yeah, I lived in a cabin. It was - it was absolutely absolutely a nice abode I lived in. You know, it was a beautiful, attractive affectionate of abounding area, but the berth was a little rundown. And I anticipate that's breadth that comes from. But I didn't apperception at the time. You know, I aloof - I like the outdoors, and I like big trees. And I like - you know, so that's breadth I aloof to and...

GROSS: My consequence was bodies were actual afraid about you at that time.

PETTY: Yeah. Yeah, I anticipate they were. And I aloof affectionate of cut myself off for a continued time at that point and didn't absolutely allocution to a lot of bodies and aloof alone bottomward for a while and went through a - you know, a absolutely boxy time. And I guess, you know, I'm OK now (laughter) you know? But it took me a while to arise back. I anticipate that I aloof went through some bad, bad stuff, and it assuredly aloof agape me bottomward and I retreated. And I anticipate I was affectionate of - you know, my wife, Dana, absolutely I anticipate - you know, she wasn't my wife then, but she was a actual able person. And I met her, and she formed absolutely adamantine at aloof bringing me ashamed to life. And I acknowledge her for it. And afresh years later, we married, and I'm OK now. Acknowledge you.

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GROSS: Did you assignment at all during this period?

PETTY: Yeah. Yeah, I formed occasionally. Not at my best, I don't think, but I did work. And - but I anticipate I was aloof walking about in a befuddlement best of the time. I did - I didn't absolutely accept a faculty of direction.

GROSS: We're alert ashamed to a 2006 account with Tom Petty. He died bygone afterwards adversity cardiac arrest. We'll apprehend added of the account afterwards a break. This is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS SONG, "DON'T COME AROUND HERE NO MORE")

GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Let's get ashamed to my account with singer, songwriter, guitarist and bandleader Tom Petty. He died yesterday. I batten with him in 2006.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED BROADCAST)

GROSS: I appetite to comedy addition almanac here, and this is one of Johnny Cash's albums. On the anthology "Unchained," which was one of the albums he fabricated afterwards in his activity in that...

PETTY: Yeah, we backed him on that.

GROSS: ....Series of American recordings. Yeah, you and the Heartbreakers backed him up on this. And how - I assumption how did - how - of all the bands in the apple (laughter), how did you get to comedy with him?

PETTY: Well, we had been accompany a continued time, I anticipate 20 years, ashamed we did "Unchained". I mean...

GROSS: You and Johnny Cash had been friends?

PETTY: Yeah. Yeah, we became accompany ashamed in the aboriginal '80s. And John had fabricated this - he was, you know, he was breaking out of a thing, too, breadth he had affectionate of been aghast in what he was accomplishing in the Nashville world, you know? And he fabricated this acoustic anthology that was absolutely brilliant. It was his aboriginal American record. And afresh I assumption the plan for the abutting one was to accomplish a - you know, a bandage almanac with a band. And he came to me, him and Rick Rubin, actually, at the time - the time we were talking about ashamed I was activity to a appealing boxy period.

And they alleged me one day, both of them on the phone, and said, hey, why don't you arise comedy bass on this almanac we're activity to do? And I thought, that's great, you know? And so they got me out of the house. And afresh it grew from me arena the bass on the almanac to, hey, how about the Heartbreakers arena on the record? And it was a admirable time. You know, we all went bottomward and fabricated a accomplished anthology with Johnny Cash. And it's - I anticipate it's some of the best arena the Heartbreakers anytime did. You know, it's - it was - it angry out aloof great. I adulation that anthology to this day.

GROSS: Well, here's a clue from it. This is "Sea Of Heartbreak," Johnny Cash, with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers playing.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "SEA OF HEARTBREAK")

JOHNNY CASH: One, two. One, two, three, four. (Singing) The lights in the anchorage don't flash for me. I'm like a absent address afloat on the sea, the sea of heartbreak. Absent adulation and loneliness, memories of your cuddle so divine, how I ambition you were abundance again, my dear. I'm on this sea of tears, sea of heartbreak. Oh, how did I lose you? Oh, breadth did I fail? Why did you leave me consistently to captain this sea of heartbreak? Absent adulation and loneliness, memories of your cuddle so divine, how I ambition you were abundance again, my dear. I'm on this sea of tears, sea of heartbreak.

GROSS: I anticipate that ashamed you're adolescent and you abatement in adulation with a song, it has this absurd appulse on you. And the song aloof affectionate of stays in your apperception for the blow of your life. And every time you apprehend it, you anticipate about what that song meant to you and how your animosity about the song has acquired over the years. And you have, like, a agglomeration of songs that accept that affectionate of abode in people's minds. And I admiration if you anticipate about that a lot - if you anticipate about that appropriate abode that abundant songs accept in the lives of adolescent bodies and teenagers ashamed they aboriginal apprehend them over and over.

PETTY: I apperceive the songs beggarly a lot to people, and it agency a lot to me, you know? We aloof played this Bonnaroo anniversary up in - well, it's in Tennessee. And you know, there were 80,000 bodies there. And they were singing, you know, "I Won't Ashamed Down" so loud that it about drowned us out, you know? And I - you know, I was cerebration at the time, you know, God, this is aloof so admirable that this has accomplished bodies on this level, you know, and that bodies apperceive the words to these things. And it agency article to them.

So I don't appetite to advertise them out if I don't accept to (laughter). And I apperceive that a lot of music has meant - you know, has been important to me. You know, the bedrock 'n' cycle actuality is added than aloof article that you can dispense into announcement or whatever they do with them. It agency added than that to me. Appropriate or wrong, that's what it - you know, that's the way I am.

GROSS: Well, Tom Petty, acknowledge you so much, and congratulations on the new CD and on, you know, 30 years with the Heartbreakers. That's affectionate of incredible.

PETTY: OK, well, acknowledge you for...

GROSS: Thanks so abundant for talking with us.

PETTY: Thanks for accepting me. It was nice to be here.

GROSS: My account with Tom Petty was recorded in 2006. He died bygone afterwards adversity cardiac arrest. He was 66.

(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "DON'T DO ME LIKE THAT")

TOM PETTY AND THE HEARTBREAKERS: (Singing) I was talking with a acquaintance of mine, said a woman had aching his pride - told him that she admired him so and angry about and let him go. Afresh he said, you bigger watch your step, or you're activity to get aching yourself. Someone's activity to acquaint you lies, cut you bottomward to size. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. What if I adulation you, baby? Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. Someday I ability charge you, baby. Don't do me like that.

(Singing) Listen, honey. Can you see? Baby, you would coffin me if you were in the accessible eye giving addition abroad a try. And you apperceive you bigger watch your step, or you're activity to get aching yourself. Someone's activity to acquaint you lies, cut you bottomward to size. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. What if I adulation you, baby? Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. What if I charge you, baby? Don't do me like that.

(Singing) Because about abysmal bottomward inside, addition is adage adulation doesn't aftermost that long, I got this activity central night and day, and now I can't booty it no more. Listen, honey. Can you see? Baby, you would coffin me if you were in the accessible eye giving addition abroad a try. And you apperceive you bigger watch your step, or you're activity to get aching yourself.

GROSS: We're activity to booty a abbreviate break, and afresh Milo Miles will analysis a new accumulating alleged "Afrobeats Hot Hits: The New Complete Of Urban Africa." This is FRESH AIR.

(SOUNDBITE OF ALABAMA SHAKES SONG, "GIMME ALL YOUR LOVE")

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