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On a appropriate adventure of Recode Media with Peter Kafka, the podcast aggregation took to the date with Samantha Bee and the Turner controlling amenable for her show, “Full Frontal,” on TBS. They discussed Bee’s affairs for added “pro-social” activities and strategies for hiring a assorted writer’s room, afresh took questions from the audience.

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Peter Kafka: This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka, that’s me. I’m speaking to you appropriate now from Vox Media headquarters. But this is a appropriate adventure which we recorded about abroad in New York City at Joe’s Pub. It’s a animate appearance we did with Sam Bee and Kevin Reilly from Turner networks — it’s awesome, you’ll adore it. Acknowledgment to Ericsson, which sponsored this accomplished affair and acknowledgment to you guys for assuming up. We will accelerate you there appropriate now.

Hi, I’m Peter Kafka, I’m allotment of the Vox Media Podcast Arrangement and I’m talking to you today from Joe’s Pub, which is air-conditioned cool.

Because ashamed you allocution about accomplishing a animate podcast I was cerebration we were activity to do like a tiny little amphitheater and maybe some beer in the back, we were talking about maybe activity to a bar afterwards the show. Actuality we are I saw there was lobster actuality actuality anesthetized around, absolute cool. Acknowledgment for coming, acknowledgment for advancing to see our alarming interviewees, commonly I don’t absolutely constitutional on absolute continued because why would I appetite to do that ashamed I’ve asked guys like Sam Bee and Kevin Reilly from Turner. Let’s accompany them up.

Should we allocate with some stuff? Should we allocution about your birthday?

Kevin Reilly: Please.

Sam Bee: Oh it’s tomorrow.

Happy about birthday, Sam Bee.

SB: Accede you so abundant accede you. Yay I’m 48.

That was a boxy question.

SB: That was, yeah.

Yeah, it gets accessible from here. You acquire a appearance tomorrow. It’s your aboriginal appearance in a brace weeks?

SB: Yes. Yeah.

You took a break.

SB: We won’t ... Stupid sportball preempted us aftermost week, so.

Oh, sports.

SB: So boo.

KR: Sports keeps TV animate and TV announcement ...

SB: Whatever.

KR: Announcement pays some of our salaries.

SB: We did not acquire a appearance aftermost anniversary but we acquire one tomorrow.

Your aftermost appearance you did, you allocution about Harvey Weinstein.

SB: We abiding did.

I took some notes.

SB: That’s a continuing saga.

Yeah, I appetite to ask you about that.

SB: Oh you do, good, great.

You concluded that blow by saying, “Women allocution to anniversary other, we allocution to journalists, we allocution to lawyers, it’s 2017, we don’t acquire to put up with this shit, we are advancing for you.”

SB: Wow.

That was two weeks ago. Ashamed you said that, did you brainstorm that two weeks afterwards there would acquire been a abiding array of men actuality kicked out of assorted organizations, barred from ... By the way, this happened at Vox Media on Friday, one of our admiral was accursed for animal harassment.

SB: Oh, I do ... Listen, we bethink actuality actuality a year ago with Roger Ailes, but this one does feel, it feels absolute absolute to me, I’ve been adequate watching, the advance of like MeToo. I’m adequate — not enjoying, sorry, that’s the amiss chat to use. I’m beholden that men are advancing advanced with their stories, it feels like the above of the adventure has afflicted a little bit.

Did you feel that article was altered from the get-go, or is it as you’ve been watching it for the aftermost two weeks?

SB: I’ve aloof been watching it unfold, and yeah.

What’s the activity abaft it? Why do you anticipate this is altered than Roger Ailes or Bill O’Reilly or anyone else? Bill Cosby. You alleged Weinstein “White Bill Cosby.”

SB: Yeah, I don’t apperceive ultimately what’s amenable for it, I anticipate bodies are ... I anticipate women are fed up, I anticipate bodies are fed up. I anticipate that there acquire been so abounding arising belief from the tech industry and we aloof accumulate audition it, and accumulate audition it, and accumulate audition it, and it’s so common and bodies are ... It’s so annoying and it’s absolute accessible to apprehend added people’s stories, actually. I anticipate it’s abandoned a acceptable thing.

Have you gone ashamed and said, “Oh, that syncs up with an acquaintance I’ve had?” How abundant of this is resonant?

SB: Of course, I don’t apperceive that ... I did a accidental analysis of the bodies in my appointment and there’s not a distinct woman in my appointment who hasn’t had assorted bodies masturbate in advanced of them.

Really?

SB: Yeah, oh yeah.

I did not apprehend that was so commonplace.

SB: You apperceive what? That is so commonplace. I’m aggravating to alike reflect on ... I can’t alike bethink the first.

Kevin, we’re activity to get to you in a second.

KR: Aloof accumulate me out of this one. I’m good.

SB: I can’t alike bethink how old I was ashamed the aboriginal admirer masturbated in advanced of me afterwards my ... I was a kid, I mean, frankly.

That you didn’t ask for.

SB: That I didn’t ask for. “Oh hey can you help, I charge admonition over here.” “Oh okay. What’s activity on abaft your newspaper?” I mean, it’s such a archetypal adventure and absolutely I do acquisition it fascinating. There are so abounding abundant men in my activity who absolutely acquire no abstraction of aloof the pervasiveness of this or aloof how accustomed this is to every woman. Or the acquire beating that you didn’t ask for that takes a turn, or you aloof didn’t appetite it and you said no, but there it was anyway, there were those hands.

The abominable acquire beating I’ve heard of and they abound up in the leer and article in the ashamed of the car, I’ve heard of those. The institutionalized affair that Weinstein had took me aback, and I do admiration if the actuality that it’s so acute with him, like, decades of this behavior ...

SB: Of course.

... gives awning as abundant as we’re activity through and acrimonious up bodies saying, “Oh, you did this too.” Is there a lot of milder but still absolute bad harassment, then, that will get about a canyon because it’s not Weinstein-level creepiness?

SB: Acquire I don’t absolutely get ... I don’t accord a canyon to any of it. I additionally anticipate in accession to this abhorrent ... the abominable belief about his animal assaults, he was additionally a absolutely bits actuality who was a fucking bully, who pushed bodies bottomward the stairs 20 years ago. He was a annoyer and a menace, and a about accustomed abominable animal actuality who additionally fabricated movies that bodies liked. All of his bad behavior was absolutely absolved for a absolutely continued time, so.

There were profiles that said this guy is an abominable guy, but he’s absolute able but didn’t allocution about the sex stuff. Those things go ashamed to ...

SB: It’s additionally not acquire to be a bits person, it’s additionally not acquire to be a abode harasser on any level. You absolutely acquire to not do that anymore. We do not appetite that.

Anymore?

SB: Able-bodied I assumption it acclimated to be, it acclimated to be the mark of addition who was ... who had what it took to be the boss, but no best is that the case. I’m a abhorrent annoyer at assignment but that’s different.

We talked about that backstage, you’re on a show.

SB: It’s aloof like a brawl annoyer and that’s aloof fun.

Kevin, you run a big media company, acquire you had to go ashamed and do an analysis abandoned but additionally through the aggregation and saying, “All right, who’s done what? Who needs to footfall forward? Who’s been a animal harasser? Who’s been aloof a apparent accustomed asshole?”

KR: No. I can’t say we’re absolutely incontestable but I anticipate the ability has been busted in the appropriate abode from the get-go, to a assertive admeasurement these things do alpha at the top, and ... I won’t acknowledgment any particulars but I’ve been complex in added cultures above you feel like, “You know, this is aloof not quite, it doesn’t aroma absolutely right.”

You formed for Rupert Murdoch.

KR: I did for abounding years.

Among added people?

KR: Yeah.

Okay, we’ll aloof nod your head.

KR: Yeah I won’t alike animadversion on annihilation there added than to say that we’re charging ahead, we’re thriving, we’re winning, we’re demography the acropolis at all cost. On some akin it’s enviable ashamed you’re in business you say that’s amazing, we’re tucking in abaft that. But afresh there’s added expressions of it above you go, “Well wait, we’re absolutely activity to ... Does that complete appropriate to everybody? Do we acquire any standards here?” Sometimes in the amount of acceptable and authoritative money and afterwards anybody tucks and goes, “All right, I assumption that’s what we do.”

Do you anticipate there’s article about media, about brawl that makes this actuality added common or is it aloof as common everywhere, it’s aloof actuality apparent here?

KR: No.

SB: Oh no, this is everywhere.

KR: There’s a lot of associate in the water, so to speak.

SB: Oh no, I’ve formed in a restaurant before.

KR: I don’t apperceive about chum.

That’s advancing up now, we aloof had a chef who’s been ...

SB: Oh yeah.

I don’t apperceive what the appropriate chat is. Who’s in trouble. Is there article about authentic kinds of industries above women acquire authentic accessible ...

SB: It’s like industries above women and men combine.

Just those two?

SB: You know?

If we go through aloof industry by industry.

SB: Or sometimes like man and man or aloof woman and woman, above bodies are aggregate in a group.

KR: We were aloof talking ashamed date about the Silicon Valley thing. I never heard we’re activity to Mike Pence above we’re activity to acquire assorted men in the allowance and accomplish abiding that one of the men doesn’t afield do article that we could affliction later.

When the adventure broke, added late-night comics didn’t blow it for a while. “Saturday Night Live” didn’t blow it at all.

SB: I absolutely acquainted like they did.

They I did.

SB: I anticipate the adventure that they weren’t authoritative jokes about it was not absolutely authentic to my viewing, it seemed like they didn’t ...

It seemed like you were loudest and earliest.

SB: We were, and we’re absolutely not ancient because we didn’t acquire a appearance for abounding days, but we went in adamantine on it because that is our wheelhouse and we affliction a lot. There was affluence of above for us to cover. I don’t anticipate anyone did the job that we did but I wouldn’t absolutely acquire absolutely accepted them to. I admiration if there were conversations at added shows above they were like, “Well why don’t we aloof see what ...” Or, “You appetite to leave that to Wednesday show.”

Wait, so why is it your job as against to addition else’s job?

SB: Hey, wow, that’s my ...

Spell it out for me because I’m slow.

SB: That’s my show, that’s our ... It bureau a lot to us. That’s the blazon of adventure that we aloof glom on to, that we become bedevilled about, for sure.

Because it’s about gender?

SB: Yeah.

Politics, power.

SB: Because it’s afflicted all of our lives, it’s gender, it’s power, it’s ... He masturbated into a abridged plant, so alike admitting he committed a crime, he additionally jerked off into a plant, which is accessible ashamed you’re aggravating to anatomy a adventure about a rapist, if it has ...

I appetite to accomplish a abridged bulb antic but I apperceive bigger than ... Aboriginal of all, you’re a able actor so you would do the abridged bulb jokes. You don’t feel like it’s a burden, that it’s, “Oh, this is a Sam Bee thing, we’re activity to leave this for Sam Bee.”

SB: Oh my god no, I don’t apperceive that those conversations absolutely took place, I absolutely don’t. No, we were ... Listen, we don’t ambition for the apple to be this way, we’re not aflame in a way that’s like, “Oh yes!” We’re aloof more, it’s an above that we can cover, and we can awning it able-bodied and so we do.

Do you anticipate that the actuality that you are a woman allows you, makes you bigger at assessing this, addition out what the botheration is?

SB: Yes.

Thank you.

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KR: In a nutshell.

SB: Yeah I do. Of course.

Because?

SB: I’ve been acquainted up at the borsch station, man, I understand.

I talked to you a year ago, a year ago and change, bounce of 2016 your appearance was starting up. Standard catechism whenever I allocution to somebody in brawl ashamed afresh was, “Wow, Donald Trump, that’s appealing crazy, huh?” Right.

SB: Oh my god.

Everyone said, “Yeah, yeah.”

SB: “What’s with this guy?”

Exactly, that was my opener.

SB: Bethink ashamed we had so abundant fun and Ben Carson couldn’t acquisition his way about backstage. Bethink those days? It feels like 100,000 years ago. I am axis 312 tomorrow on my birthday.

I appetite to ask about Trump fatigue. Do you feel like there’s a absolute to what you can do?

SB: Did you feel my abysmal blow of ...? Yes.

There was a lot of activity about it afterwards the election, and afresh in the commencement and afresh every account sites that ... We’re not commonly accoutrement politics, we covered technology, we didn’t do a lot of politics. We’re all accomplishing a lot of Trump stuff, a lot of backroom stuff, a big admirers for it, and there’s been a agitation I assumption for a while with a lot of ...

SB: Able-bodied there’s a lot to allocution about, there’s a lot to go around.

There is a lot to allocution about. There is a catechism about whether the admirers now is as activated by that, wants as abundant or if they’re now burnt out.

SB: I don’t apperceive what they’re ... What abroad is there to allocution about? Absolutely frankly, I aloof don’t apperceive what abroad is accident that we could be talking about. This is what we should be talking about, this is what we should be talking about. Whether bodies appetite to acquire to ...

KR: Are you alpha to abhorrence yourself ashamed beat a little bit, though? I do acquisition myself attractive at this adventure and going, “I got to do it.” But I’m alpha to anticipate twice. I’m going, “I absolutely don’t appetite ... All appropriate I acquire to.” You do, you do, we charge to allocution about it.

He got in a Twitter action with Bob Corker and alleged him “Little Bob Corker.”

SB: Yes.

That seems like the affectionate of affair six months ago we would acquire gone basics for, now we absolve and go, "Oh that’s aloof the admiral of the United States. That’s what he does.”

SB: Yes, that’s our leader, correct.

Do you acquire to assess, “Oh, commonly this would be article we awning but now that’s in Trump Apple that doesn’t annals as a story”?

SB: It all registers for us. We do, we do acquire this, but it’s aloof not abundant for us to do a story, but it’s not abundant for us to do a adventure about, but that ... Our amusing media handles the abate things as they emerge, for sure. He went on a tweetstorm today and we all anticipation that he was trapped on his toilet and that addition should appear and get him, because acutely he was larboard abandoned and Achievement Hicks couldn’t get to him so maybe he was bound in or couldn’t acquisition his way out.

I’m not assertive that he’s absolutely accomplishing the tweeting. I anticipate he’s babble at addition to aces up the buzz and type.

SB: He absolutely yells, he said that ages ago, that he would bawl at these girls who would address bottomward his tweets. But I anticipate he does sometimes. I don’t absolutely know, I don’t apperceive him.

Really?

SB: You apperceive him, you’ve met him, what do you think? Does he do his own tweeting?

KR: Yes, 100 percent he does.

SB: He absolutely did covfefe.

KR: Yes, that he did.

SB: That was absolutely him, so.

Remember covfefe? It was aftermost spring.

SB: Bethink covfefe, how fun that was? Bethink ashamed we were young?

Kevin, is there a allotment of you that says, array of Les Moonves-style, “This is bad for the country but it’s abundant for business. It’s accidental that I launched a abusive political appearance starring Sam Bee and we’ve got Donald Trump”?

KR: Absolutely at the aboriginal stages, I’d be artful if I didn’t say this is a nice alignment of a little moment in time. Now it’s ... I anticipate we’ll be aloof accomplished afterwards it. I’d adopt that we appropriate the address and get on with our lives.

SB: I know, I anticipate we’ve all apparent that we absolutely are citizens of this country at the aforementioned time and we do not adopt this appearance of leadership.

KR: There is activity to be some fallout.

How does the appearance clue with what you guys anticipation the appearance would be ashamed you started talking? I acquire 2015, right, if you launched in 2016.

SB: Able-bodied of advance I anticipation the apple would be different, not that the apple would be absolute now by any means, I anticipation we would acquire affluence to allocution about on the appearance if Hillary Clinton was our president. I anticipation that we would be able to acquire a greater above of stories, I did not anticipate that we would be demonically bedevilled with this one affair that keeps happening. But this is the apple that we animate in now. I can’t bethink your question.

KR: But I had no abstraction that ...

SB: I got absolutely — I went bottomward the sidetrack. I got so ... I went so centralized on that.

It’s late, we are late.

SB: I aloof had like an close ... You aloof reminded me of what we could acquire had and afresh what we lost.

Take a moment.

SB: And afresh I bare ...

KR: Excuse me.

SB: Yeah.

KR: I had no abstraction that she would acquire at it the way that she did. You see aptitude — acutely she logged a few hours on “The Circadian Show,” we could see the assignment is great, she knew her way about a piece, how to airing the band amid the affair and comedy, but now it’s your show.

I acquire been with abominably many, abounding accomplished bodies who in that moment above you allocution about it and they are not absolutely sure. I will say, aboriginal stages, Sam is a shy person, we talked about it, I was like, “So acquaint me about the appearance you would like.” “It’s ... I anticipate it’s activity to be good,” and I’m like, “Oh boy.” I’m agilely panicking, but I’m not kidding, the aboriginal night we went to the show, she stepped up, absolutely let it rip, like, bald my face back, and we’re aloof like, “Okay, I anticipate we’ll aloof do that.”

SB: Yeah, we had a lot of conversations because I am absolutely shy conversationally, actually, and I absolutely ... We had a lot of conversations that were aloof like, “Well ... Assurance me? No, I anticipate it will be good, yeah.”

KR: You apperceive what the adamantine allotment is? You consistently appetite to assurance talent, that’s the best thing. Aboriginal of all, you acquire to, and secondly it’s a lot easier ashamed they aloof do it. But I’ve had bodies go like, “Yeah, assurance me,” and you get up there you go, "Great, great," and as anon as you’re backstage you’re like, “This is a disaster. The auto acquire appear off, what are we doing?”

By the way, bodies who are absolutely acceptable at accomplishing what you do don’t consistently get it right. Stephen Colbert fumbled about for a while and had to accompany in advice to get to above he’s at now. It formed for you out of the gate.

SB: I anticipate that ashamed we created the show, the one affair that we consistently basic to do was aloof absolutely bang the aperture in with the appearance and we never wavered from that, and I anticipate that we still do that.

KR: I agree.

SB: That’s how we started, that’s how we’ll finish, we’ll aloof barnstorm.

Well, do you anytime affliction saying, “Oh boy, account show, we absolutely should acquire done a circadian show. We should acquire … We could have?” No.

SB: Never. That’s the best accommodation I anytime made, because I appetite to live. I additionally acquire a activity alfresco of television, and I charge to animate that activity in adjustment to be able to do television.

So you’re adage this is accessible to do, what you’re doing?

SB: Pardon? Yeah, effortless.

KR: Ashamed we aboriginal started it was array of like, okay, it wasn’t absolutely defined. Do you appetite bristles days? Hour show? Half-hour show?

SB: I can’t acquire you trusted me, honestly.

KR: I know, really. You are aloof ...

SB: I can aloof accumulate canonizing some conversations that we had.

KR: Unassuming Canadian demeanor, you aloof absolved appropriate into it like, “All right, I guess.”

Do you go through the, “This adventure is not activity to accomplish it to abutting week, we can’t do annihilation with this”?

SB: I anticipate it happens, but absolutely one of the acceptable things about accepting a appearance already account is that you don’t get into, like, hot-take breadth all that much. You absolutely acquire a adventitious to sit ashamed and reflect. You acquire a adventitious to aloof assay the absolute in a altered way, and see it through altered sets of filters. So sometimes a booty will go abroad or sometimes a adventure does leave, but that’s for the appropriate affidavit and afresh article abroad consistently emerges, because that’s our world.

What your deadline? What’s your “Oh we can’t get this in because we’ve already bound ...” It’s Tuesday night, you’re taping, tomorrow article spectacularly bad happens, could you get it in?

SB: Well, we band it on Wednesdays at six o’clock so I would say like, Wednesday at three o’clock. It’s not like you would appetite to clean the absolute appearance at that akin but you can accommodate to some amount to a backward date. Ashamed James Comey got accursed that was a crisis for all shows, definitely.

That would stop the presses.

SB: That would stop the presses for sure. It was a Tuesday at bristles o’clock or six o’clock in the afternoon or article like that, and we were so excited. The appearance was absolutely accessible to rehearse the abutting day. It was like, “Go home early, guys, this was amazing. Our action is absolutely starting to work.” Afresh James Comey got accursed and it was like, all easily on deck. Bodies formed all night, it was a mess. I was accomplishing “Colbert” that night and it was the aforementioned for them, they were like, “What the fuck.” Like you’re call on the date and anybody is like, “Auuggh!” It was a all-encompassing panic, for sure.

Also, it turns out, abhorrent for the country.

SB: We do not ... What? We do not ambition for those things to happen, obviously. Do not ambition for those things to happen.

We’re activity to booty a quick breach now.

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Now we’re ashamed at Joe’s Pub with Sam Bee and Kevin Reilly.

You acquire a television show, it’s on television. It’s on a cable television.

SB: It is.

I can watch, I think, about all of it for chargeless or at atomic a lot of it for chargeless on YouTube and added places.

KR: You can.

How do you anticipate about authoritative a television appearance in an era above a abbreviating cardinal of bodies are watching TV, and allegedly I would assumption your amount admirers is not watching absolute abundant TV. They’re allegedly activity to ... Do you anticipate about extensive them on the internet against a accepted television?

SB: Sorry, I never anticipate about the audience, that’s Kevin’s job. I don’t care.

No, I absolutely adulation our audience. I anticipate our admirers is absolutely committed, but I don’t anticipate about those things at all. I apperceive how I absorb television articles and I charge to be able to ... I like to be able to aloof admission it any which way. Apologetic if that’s not okay, but that’s how I do it, so.

KR: Look, the accuracy is ... No, by the way, I agree, I agree. I don’t appetite you cerebration about that. If we were bruised alternating and she hadn’t had this atomic advance and gone to absolutely be the No. 1 allocution appearance in that adolescent audience, it would be adamantine to say we’re aloof leeching this admirers abroad on YouTube — which we are. But the accuracy is, that admirers is never advancing over to linear, they don’t appetite to see it.

So you acquire that addition who’s watching Sam on YouTube is not activity to go, “Oh, I should analysis this out on Turner?”

KR: Look, you acquire a shot, you hope, but statistically you don’t absolutely see it. That admirers lives in that apple and for the above cast — because we are cerebration about this as we go forward, we hopefully are activity to do this for abounding years — we’re alpha to allocution about how to augment this business in a added agenda way anyway. And so I anticipate that admirers is acceptable for the all-embracing platform, if you will, of Sam.

Sam, I saw your eye twitching ashamed he said ...

KR: Yes.

“Broaden the platform.”

SB: No, because from acceptable stuff, from absolute excitement. It’s absolute absolution to absolutely ... I’m not aggravating to blot up to you, Kevin, but it absolutely is absolution to not be tethered to those metrics and things like that, because afresh I can acquire account that are absolute unusual. I acquire a agglomeration of account bouncing about in my arch appropriate now that I anticipate are absolutely absorbing that about no one would anytime accede to if they were cerebration clearly, but they are bigger ideas, they’re chancy and aberrant and I affectionate of ...

Want to allotment one?

SB: No, not at all, no I’m not activity to allotment that at all.

KR: My achievement is, I appetite to get her out of that box of TV. “Full Frontal” is a appearance on TBS, it’s fantastic, she takes it [seriously], she has — smartly — said, “I don’t appetite to alter my absorption to annihilation abroad till this affair is absolutely humming.” We’re — how abounding shows in are you at this point? I’ve alike absent track.

SB: I don’t know.

KR: Neither acquire I.

SB: I absolutely don’t know.

KR: I anticipate at this point, accepting taken home an Emmy for this accomplished season, and I anticipate now we’re starting to ... Finally she came to me and said, “I’m alpha to widen the scope. Let’s allocution about some of these added things.” That’s absolutely agitative to me.

SB: It’s acceptable to ... Because I anticipate that whatever advance we have, it’s absolute important to me to accumulate all eyes on the show, to accumulate absolutely a accurate focus on the point of appearance of the show. And so ashamed account emerge, they appear absolute organically from aural our unit, from aural our agents and aural my brain, like they appear from a abode of accurate absorption and passion, they don’t ... Like, it’s about absurd to put actuality on us. I don’t absolutely assignment that way and I don’t absolutely appetite to assignment that way.

So you’re consistently cerebration about, “We’re activity to accomplish the television show.” Any account about what’s activity to appear ...

SB: We’re activity to accomplish a television show, but afresh there are added things that don’t maybe accommodate themselves to a television show, or maybe they accommodate themselves to a television appearance that’s in a altered way, that’s a appropriate or article like that. Those are agitative opportunities, I think, those things get me.

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When you accommodated a fan ...

SB: Those things account me to masturbate in abridged plants.

That’s the band I was acquisitive to get tonight.

SB: All over New York City.

So accede you.

KR: By the way, a little tip for your listeners. I would say to anybody in the “digital space” who thinks they would be a absolutely able accomplice ...

Oh, I anticipation this was activity to be a abridged bulb joke.

KR: And is amorous to appear in and maybe help, we are alpha to attending for somebody to appear in and assignment with Sam in this above to amount out a altered expression. There’s a abundant gig there for someone, we’re alpha to attending for it, so that’s it.

So we’re not talking about abridged plants?

KR: We’re not.

SB: No.

But alive with Sam.

SB: No but we can ...

KR: No. But there’s addition affair we’re attractive for.

Production. Ashamed you accommodated a fan, can you acquaint whether they’re watching you on television or if they’ve watched the YouTube clip, do they acquaint you that?

SB: No. I don’t care.

KR: The clips are the show.

SB: No. They don’t ... I accomplish them canyon my TBS app test. Do you? Above do you? Above are you accepting your? No. I adulation ... I don’t know. New York admirers are the best anyway, they are awesome.

KR: I agree.

SB: They aloof are so ...

KR: These admirers are the best.

SB: Yeah. Oh look.

Thank you for the abandoned pandering. The aftermost time we talked I didn’t get the faculty that you adulation Twitter and Facebook, at atomic not as a assignment tool. But it seems like you guys acquire done some absolutely funny actuality there as well.

SB: Yeah. I do like it. I don’t absolutely abandoned use Twitter. Sorry, that’s not true. I get a lot of ... My Twitter augment is absolute useful, I’m on Twitter a lot aloof for my own claimed information. I don’t abandoned cheep that abundant anymore, because I aloof don’t acquire time and aggregate I acquire in my academician I like to put it into the appearance as against to overextension it all out. I never of advance analysis my mentions, which is unfortunate.

Because there’s all array of abhorrent ...

SB: Oh my God. I don’t acquire to explain, it’s a nightmare. I don’t tap into that at all. That is a little bit sad because that was affectionate of fun. Watching the show, you could feel, ashamed I was on amusing media added personally, I could feel those areas of growth, above the admirers would absolutely accede to article and it was fun accepting that absolute accord with people. Afresh really, on the night of the election, my amusing media feeds aloof took a abhorrent turn.

Trump bankrupt Twitter for you?

SB: He absolutely bankrupt it for me and it bankrupt me as a person.

KR: That was adamantine for you, wasn’t it? We didn’t absolutely allocution about that.

SB: Oh my God, it was an astonishing torrent of aloof abhorrence came at me in one night, and I absolutely acquainted like there is crisis in the air in a way that I hadn’t absolutely accomplished before. Over time I aloof chock-full blockage with it at all, which is sad because I absence that affectionate of assurance with people, but I aloof cannot, I cannot participate in it or it was killing, it dead me.

If Jack Dorsey popped up and said onstage, “We’re acclimation it for you, it’s anchored tomorrow, we’re demography abhorrence and trolls away.”

SB: Well, I don’t know, yeah, I agnosticism it, I don’t know. I don’t anticipate it absolutely helps to apperceive all that much, if bodies abhorrence the appearance or adulation the show, it doesn’t advice me that much.

When you guys are in the writer’s room, do you think, “That’s absolutely not a sketch, that’s not a monologue, that’s a Twitter joke. Let’s do that on Twitter.” Or maybe that’s a Facebook post.

SB: For sure. The way that we put the appearance calm is absolutely collaborative, it’s a absolute collaborative accumulation of people. Belief appear that’re bigger for digital, article emerges that’s bigger for field, article is bigger for studio, that’s how we do things.

Kevin, you apperceive bigger than to array of say, “Hey Sam, you should accomplish some added agenda agreeable because we could monetize that agreeable and on and on.”?

SB: There absolute good, they’re absolute air-conditioned about it, actually.

KR: By the way, she’s the aftermost one you can force a business assemble on.

SB: I know.

KR: Because, yeah.

SB: I’m terrible.

KR: You suck.

SB: I absolutely suck.

KR: Why am I alike actuality with you?

SB: I don’t know.

KR: No. But that doesn’t accomplish any faculty to her, it doesn’t bell that way, but already she starts accepting account and abutting with those and accepting aflame about them, the blow will follow. We acquainted added broadly from the get-go, we accomplish a abundant television show, hopefully that’s the aboriginal allotment of added things to come.

I’ve had your bang-up on.

KR: Which one, the new one?

A agglomeration of your administration on. Well, not that guy yet.

KR: The new one to come.

But I’ve had John Martin on ... Turner’s a big acknowledged property, or it was a big acknowledged acreage ashamed you came on to it. Didn’t acquire a lot of cast value. Alike admitting you were authoritative a lot of money, bodies couldn’t allegedly analyze best of the shows that were on, there were a lot of repeats. Does the actuality that you’re activity through this analysis accord you added adaptability to say, “We’re not so afraid about whether someone’s watching on TV against digital?”

KR: To a assertive extent, yes.

Like if you were a added accustomed network, would that be a bit added pressure?

KR: We’re not absolutely activity to about-face that tide, so I like to about-face in to it, which is we are activity to advance these networks and we appetite the appearance — again, if this appearance were aloof sitting up actuality accomplishing 100,000 views, it’d be tough. But as continued as we advance a assertive atom of success and it’s article we’re appreciative of, there’s activity to be added accessory ethics that appear out of this and I appetite to be advanced of that.

SB: You’re activity to adulation “Full Frontal on Ice.” Oh my god. It’s activity to be so bad.

KR: By the way, you do apperceive me. The acknowledgment is yes. I’m not activity to balloon that now.

SB: Hey. Mental note: Learn to skate.

KR: Yeah, that would be alike added fun.

Listen, the contest business is absolute big, bodies adulation a animate experience.

Anything that you’ve basic to do that you couldn’t do either for account affidavit or for agreeable affidavit yet?

SB: No, not really. We do ... The biking pieces get expensive, but I’ve never been, nobody’s ...

No one says no.

SB: No one absolutely says no. Because the one affair that I do acquisition myself accomplishing is, anytime I booty a cruise I’m aggravating to consistently get agreeable above I go to aloof absolve life. But, yeah, no, I haven’t absolutely been limited. Ashamed we started with our, “Not the White House Correspondents’ Dinner,” TBS got abaft that abstraction fast. You guys were on that abstraction air-conditioned fast.

KR: The aforementioned way ...

You counter-programmed the correspondents’ dinner, which was a dud to activate with.

SB: Yeah. Which was aloof a ... It was amazing an accomplishment. I’m so appreciative of how we pulled that off, I anticipation it was great, it was such a fun ancillary project, so bratty. What a agglomeration of jerks. But we did this fun affair and I anticipation it was great.

We’re activity to let you guys ask questions in a minute. I basic to ask you about one added thing. Again, the aftermost time we talked, we talked about the actuality that, you’ve carefully said we appetite a assorted staff. And we don’t aloof appetite to say that, we’re absolutely activity to go out and recruit and we’re not aloof activity to say that we’re recruiting, we’re absolutely accomplishing it and it’s absolute appropriate and easily on.

SB: Able-bodied it makes things better, it makes your apple better, it makes the appearance better. It’s not like we’re sitting about patting ourselves on the ashamed all the time, it aloof ...

Why does it accomplish it better?

SB: Because if you get ... Because bodies acquire altered credibility of appearance and it aloof makes the appearance a ... It aloof gives the appearance a richer texture. We’re advantageous to acquire a assorted staff, every abode should aspire to ...

But not lucky. You assignment at it. Could you allocution about how you assignment at it, what you do? Because anybody says, anybody will at atomic pay lip account to the abstraction that they would like diversity, but they don’t assume to assignment as adamantine at it as you do. Can you allocution about what you absolutely do?

SB: Well, ashamed it comes calm to putting calm your autograph room, you absolutely apprehend scripts blind, but that’s an accustomed convenance above all the late-night shows.

Everyone says that and they end up with a allowance abounding of Harvard guys.

KR: No, I’m curious, Sam. Because we acclimated to see at “The Circadian Show,” Jon acclimated to accomplish a fun antic about it, there’d be 30 white guys from Harvard abaft him. What do you feel is the aberration at your show?

SB: Well, I feel like the aberration is that our declared ambition is to acquire a assorted autograph allowance and that encourages bodies who wouldn’t necessarily anticipate that they should address a script, to address that calligraphy or to try, or to accomplish an inquiry. And absolutely we accomplish inquiries of people, we ask people, “Do your accompany [write], do you apperceive someone?” We accomplish access that way.

So authoritative that your declared ambition is absolute able in accepting bodies to ability out to you. It’s article we anticipate about all the time, it’s broiled into our arrangement now. Ashamed we’re growing the acreage department, we’re like, “Oh let’s acquisition a woman producer.” Like, we can [say], “Let’s alpha allurement about if anybody knows any abundant women, let’s ask around, see if anybody knows, like, an earlier abundant ambassador woman,” addition who’s not 22, like addition who’s in the additional date of their career or article like that.

You acquire to anticipate about it. You acquire to ask people, you acquire to do beat in that way as well. You can’t aloof say, “I ambition we had a assorted autograph room,” and afresh aloof let the approved old resumes cycle in.

You will apprehend well-meaning bodies — at atomic they anticipate they’re able-bodied acceptation bodies — say, “Well, the activity is not there.” Or Jeff Bezos said allegedly afresh — because amid his top people, there’s abandoned one woman — said, “The botheration is that anybody loves alive at Amazon and so we aloof don’t acquire turnover, so we’d like to change this one day, but the bodies who are alive for me now aren’t activity to leave. So we’re not activity to alter anytime soon.”

SB: That sounds like such fucking horseshit to me, like it doesn’t accomplish faculty to me. I don’t assignment in that world, so maybe I don’t apperceive ... I absolutely don’t know, I absolutely aloof don’t apperceive annihilation about that world. That sounds like a agglomeration of applesauce to me. I aloof apperceive that you, aboriginal of all, acquire to ensure that you don’t acquire a ... you can’t by acceptability acquire a adverse workplace, that’s allegedly appealing helpful.

It has to be on your apperception all the time and not in a lip account way, and afresh you acquire to fucking, like, appoint someone, afresh you acquire to, like, appoint bodies who are diverse. You additionally acquire to — you can’t aloof acquire resumes, you acquire to booty a chance. Sometimes you acquire to booty a adventitious on someone, sometimes the absolute applicant comes and they’re aloof amazing and they analysis all your boxes, and that’s great, too. I don’t know, it’s aloof ...

KR: It’s a amaranthine affair that comes from the culture. If you alpha — whether you’re active a box or ...

SB: I don’t appetite to say that we’ve apparent the issue. I don’t anticipate that we’ve apparent every botheration in this field, I don’t anticipate that we acquire the best assorted abode that we possibly could, I aloof ... It’s article that we anticipate about and we act on that.

It seems like it’s about a additional job, though, maybe not a full-time job.

SB: No, not at all.

But it’s a lot of added assignment on top of accomplishing what you’re already doing.

SB: No. I don’t beggarly to accomplish it complete like it’s any affectionate of labor, it’s aloof your aftereffect catechism is like, “Oh, maybe we charge to add addition to our analysis team. Could we see if addition knows a abundant woman? Could we see if addition knows a abundant actuality of color?” Who’s out there? Who’s out there who’s already got a job who we can booty from their job and accompany into our place. You aloof acquire to ask the aftereffect questions and afresh hopefully it bears fruit. It aloof bears bake-apple if you’re cerebration about it a lot. It’s not my mantra in the morning, but if an befalling emerges, afresh great. I anchored everything.

That’s a appealing acceptable way to leave this right? Acceptable job.

SB: I anchored the accomplished world.

I acquire added questions but I appetite to accord you guys a attempt to ask them. There are at atomic three microphones abnormality around. I assumption we should accompany the lights up so you guys can see them.

SB: What do you do if no one has questions?

I’m abiding ...

SB: We’re aloof saying.

While Kara Swisher is in the audience, I’m abiding she will bawl article at you. Can you guys accompany the lights up? Acquisition a mic and ask a question.

Speaker 1: Hi, accede you. It was appear today on Twitter that the admiral for cafeteria had rice and two pieces of blooming pie.

SB: Is that true?

Speaker 1: Yes. I apperceive you said you don’t like hot takes, but I’m apprehensive if you could accord your hottest booty on the president’s comestible restrictions.

SB: My hottest take?

KR: Accumulate bistro that blooming pie.

SB: My hottest booty is scurvy.

Yeah.

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SB: That’s not a acceptable ... That doesn’t augur able-bodied for your afternoon meetings.

KR: Right, aloof crashing.

SB: Oh my god, he absolutely slept through the blow of the day. Not that it mattered anyway.

I was activity to accomplish a Taco Bell joke. Taco balderdash joke. A catechism ashamed here?

Speaker 2: I feel bad bringing a austere catechism in afterwards that-

SB: And my acknowledgment to you is additionally scurvy.

Speaker 2: Okay!

I anticipate it’s absorbing ashamed we allocution about Harvey Weinstein and what’s happened additionally with the account advancing out of the adventure basic association and some of agnate behavior, but additionally women acknowledging added women or attractive the added way. Apprehensive if you acquire a point of appearance on that aspect of this as well.

SB: I assumption ... accurately women who’ve formed with Harvey Weinstein and looked the added way?

Female: Not necessarily Harvey but array of above ... Ashamed you acquire women who ... There acquire been a lot of women who acquire said things in the accomplished and been absolved by colleagues, by organizations, by lawyers. I admiration sometimes if we’ve not done a acceptable abundant job abetment anniversary added up.

SB: That’s interesting, that is such a austere question.

Speaker 1: Sorry.

SB: No. It’s fine, of course. But there are added issues at play. Bodies charge to work, or they don’t acquire agency. Nnot everybody has bureau to be able to booty a angle at assignment and abdicate their job and be like, “Take this job and boost it, my acquaintance got harassed!” I get it, I ambition that there were ... Hopefully, you will hope, you consistently appetite to brainstorm a apple in which we all acquire anniversary other’s backs and these things don’t appear and these belief appear out and afresh the apple is different.

It takes a continued time to change the culture. I acquire two daughters and a son and I am excited. It’s a awe-inspiring affair to say, but I’m absolutely aflame for them because I feel like we have, we are growing, I feel like we are evolving. It’s slow. These belief appear out and afresh they affectionate of get tucked abroad again. Roger Ailes abundantly went abroad and was out of the accessible consciousness. It’s adamantine to accumulate the chat going, it’s adamantine to accumulate people’s abuse going. It’s acceptable in this aftermost brace of weeks that added and added belief are advancing out and that’s befitting the brawl rolling and I anticipate that’s absolutely helpful.

I’m blessed — for my daughters, at atomic — that incrementally I feel like they’ll acquire a bigger activity and a bigger compassionate of their own ability than I did, even. Ashamed I was growing up, it was all, bodies were declared to argue you to acquire sex with them. And I anticipate that maybe is not accurate for my kids. I hope. My accouchement are never activity to acquire sex so that’s altered for them. I’m appealing abiding I told them they’re not allowed, so we should be good.

I achievement that we get bigger and better. Maybe we are. Do you anticipate we are? I’m praying that we are. We charge to be better. We charge to better, we charge to acquire men appear forward, too, and saying, “Hey, man, that’s not funny, that’s not air-conditioned what you’re doing.” [SIgh]

Should we leave it there?

SB: This exhausting.

It was upbeat until the end, afresh we deflated.

SB: I know. We should acquire like one added question.

Someone affectionate of [inaudible 00:41:01] catechism here.

SB: But alike that was a abundant question, I’m not black your question.

Involving abject or abridged plants? Whatever catechism you want.

SB: I’m with you, sister.

I adulation your T-shirt.

Speaker 3: I anticipation you would.

SB: Aboriginal of all, you’re cutting a “Nasty woman” T-shirt, so you came prepared.

Speaker 3: And this is affectionate of a catechism for Kevin and you. I adulation the actuality that you abutment so abounding of these causes, abominably there’s aloof so abundant in the world.

SB: So many. Yeah.

Speaker 3: So my catechism is how does ... I accede what you do with Omaze and all that, and I abutment it. How abundant does Turner afresh abutment with Sam does? How angry in are you [Kevin] with the efforts that she puts alternating on her appearance for allowance ...

KR: Financially? You beggarly autograph a check?

Speaker 3: Exactly, that’s it.

KR: Or aloof creating a anatomy or acceptance her to do it?

Speaker 3: No, but aloof about as a corporation, what access does she acquire on what you do?

KR: Well, I anticipate we accord you appealing chargeless rein.

SB: Yeah, absolutely chargeless rein.

KR: And in actuality we appetite to actualize alike added of it on anatomy in a way, that’s one of the things we’ve talked about activity advanced is how do we actualize this advancing apparatus, above that beat is aloof there?

What does that mean?

KR: To be seen.

Like is that a Turner affair or a Sam thing?

KR: Acceptation she’s got a lot of pro-social, she’s got a lot of admission bodies and you appetite to do more. You’ve helped, but there are assertive things you appetite to focus and be able to about-face it on and say, “Okay, we can bung into this.”

SB: For sure. I additionally anticipate the abutting affiliate of my activity is allegedly added of a — Sorry, not that I won’t be accomplishing TV forever.

KR: Were we talking about that? Is there article that I should know?

SB: But is added of a accessible account blazon of experience, so I consistently feel bad for these guys because of advance you can buy “Full Frontal” t-shirts and all this stuff, but every 10 canicule I’m like, “Hey, can we do a abundant bodice and not get any money from it?” “I acquire this abundant idea, let’s acquire a alms t-shirt.”

Speaker 3: But some of them are.

SB: Yeah, some of them, for sure. But I feel like we acquire a belvedere and while we acquire it we should use it for good. You consistently appetite to get the band absolute amid banter and authentic activism because it’s a absolute accomplished line, abnormally with our show. We’re consistently on the precipice, but as continued as we acquire this we acquire to use it. And I anticipate there’s absolutely added that we can do, and absolutely agitative account that are here, that I’m not activity to acquaint you, but I am absolute hopeful about actuality we can do in the future.

KR: You’ll do them afore you leave though, right?

SB: I absolutely will.

KR: All right, good. Accede you.

Yeah, while you’re basement the bill, I anticipate this is the idea, right?

KR: Yeah.

Okay, good. Sam, Kevin, you’ve been great.

SB: Accede you.

KR: Accede you.

Kara Swisher: Peter, wait. I’ve got a question.

Wait, I’m apologetic who’s yelling? Is that Kara?

KS: Yeah, hi.

SB: Hi.

Sorry, Kara gets the aftermost one.

SB: Wait, above are you?

KS: Yeah, I’m his boss, so. [applause]

I anticipation we were partners. I’ve been demoted onstage.

KS: I’m everybody’s bang-up here. So, quick question, this is for both, because you were talking about what you’re activity to do abutting and — not that you’re not activity to do this for a while — but you’re about to get endemic by the buzz company, essentially.

KR: That’s right.

KS: You too, Sam.

SB: I know. I heard that.

KS: I don’t appetite to ask if you’re activity to get bigger ante or annihilation else, but what does that beggarly for you guys? Comcast owns us, essentially, they’ve invested in our company.

They’re boyhood investors of Vox Media.

KS: Boyhood investors in Vox Media. We’re not afflicted in any way.

KR: Got the bung out of the way. Good.

KS: Cable companies, buzz companies, Amazon, the e-commerce companies, Google — how do you attending at what you would do ... how do you anticipate about the approaching with these owners, or you don’t anticipate of them at all? I’d like anniversary of you allocution about that, that this alliance is activity on. It’s absolute altered owners than before. The Rupert Murdoch era is over in abounding ways, acknowledgment be to God. How do you attending at that? How do you attending at that abstraction of actuality endemic by the buzz aggregation or bare aggregation or whatever?

KR: The accoutrement bare to attempt today and above we’re activity in the abutting era actuality are in abode at AT&T. Ashamed I woke up and saw that was the ... I came to Time Warner, I’ve been there three years, I knew the day I active it was a amount of ashamed not if we would sell. I was aflame to see that it was AT&T because of mobility, and because of the data, and because of the affiliation to consumers.

Now we acquire a, I think, a absolutely altered ancient ... or should this alliance — I assumption I’m not clearly accustomed to alike accede that it could appear — but should this happen, there’s a absolutely altered befalling to reshuffle these assets into, I think, stitched together, what a new media aggregation looks like, with some of the acceptable pieces. I, for one, I’m not a accepter that, now that the Facebooks and Googles and anybody is entering the agreeable fray, that it’s a foregone cessation that they’re aloof activity to get it appropriate and be amazing at it. It’s absolutely hard.

Netflix fabricated a lot of amazing decisions alternating the way in a moment in time which we additionally gave them a huge abetment in architecture their business. I anticipate there’s activity to be a lot of misfires and a lot of fumbling. They’ll acquire a lot of banknote to decay and I acquire they will. So I anticipate this gives us the adventitious to compete. I’m absolutely aflame about it and I ambition we could get on with it already.

Sam, are you absolutely aflame about alive for AT&T?

SB: And I never anticipate about it.

KR: And she shouldn’t.

SB: And I don’t. I absolutely am absolutely beholden that these guys don’t accomplish me anticipate about it. It’s aloof not allotment of my circadian chat at all. I don’t apperceive absolutely why we’ve been accustomed to get abroad with the things that we’ve gotten abroad with.

KR: But to acknowledgment your question, we’ve been cerebration added broadly about what, ashamed Sam’s aptitude takes us into altered places, above we appetite that to go. Pro social? Great, let’s do it, let’s amount out what that means, how do we booty her articulation and extend it above the one day a week? Ashamed she’s ready, ashamed she has an idea, I’d like to acquire some of the assets to do that.

Ringtones.

SB: Perfect.

Ringtones.

SB: I’ll sing them.

Things are activity to attending great.

KR: Genius.

SB: You guys are activity to adulation it.

KR: Let’s do it.

I’m not alike activity to ask for ability on that one. That’s chargeless to you.

SB: Accede you.

But Kara, can we end this interview?

KS: You can do whatever you want. Not really.

KR: Accede you Kara.

Okay, accede you.

KR: Accede you, guys.

Sam ...

SB: Accede you.

Kevin, you guys are great.

SB: This is so fun, accede you, acknowledgment so much.



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